Posted on 02/21/2016 3:21:29 PM PST by NavVet
I'm trying to understand FR's embrace of the Donald, but I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this one. I too had a favorable first reaction when I heard him talking about building the wall in absolute terms, and his rejection of the concept of amnesty for illegal aliens. I also admired that he was the first politician in a long time that would fight back against the media and left-wing attacks, instead of trying to appease the left. However, that admiration quickly wore off when I researched Trump and found clip after clip of the man, in his own words embracing every liberal talking point in the book. Planned Parenthood, gay marriage, abortion, government health care, protectionist trade policies, increasing taxes on businesses and the most productive. Of course, the man has taken the opposite positions on most of these two. Sometimes he will take both sides of an issue in the same discussion. Also, his "I'm awesome at___________" is wearing a bit thin. I want to hear what you plan to do, not how great you are. Then there is his child like temper, calling anyone he doesn't agree with , Liar, Pu@@Y or worse. Just seems kind of juvenile. The personality quirks I could live with, but a man who praises Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry and Hillary Clinton is another thing. And perhaps most important of all, he has said that his uber liberal sister would be a great Supreme Court Justice. Other than being a recent convert on Immigration this man has no conservative bona fides and yet have of FR acts like you would expect this board to react if Ronald Regan had returned. I just don't get it. If Bernie Sanders starts lobbying for the fair tax and runs for President on the GOP ticket would the Trumpets start feeling the Bern.
But if you give him a fair hearing OVER TIME, you will get it.
Links to the videos of his rallies are often in the sidebar.
Ever tried to refuse to hire an illegal overtly? To try to check his immigration status?
That would bring down the wrath of every tax-supported advocate of the illegal invasion and a dozen Federal and State agencies who choose to pretend immigration laws don't exist.
The clueless just love to run at the mouth...
Ann Coulter gets it...
Did you ever think you’d live to see anchor babies discussed on TV every night? H1-B visas replacing American workers? Illegal alien murderers? Mexican rapists?
Could you ever have imagined that instead of Republicans weeping over illegal aliens “living in the shadows,” we’d see them assailing one another for having once supported amnesty?
It’s all Trump. Everything we’ve been begging politicians to talk about for the past decade, Donald Trump has brought up with a roar.
But the conservative Miss Grundys complain that Trump isn’t satisfactory. They say he’s “not a serious person”; he’s “a clown,” a “vulgarian”; he’s not a “constitutional conservative” — you know, like the people who ignore the Constitution on “natural born citizen.”
This is not an election about who can check off the most boxes on a conservative policy list, or even about who is the best or nicest person. This is an election about saving the concept of America, an existential election like no other has ever been. Anyone who doesn’t grasp this is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
The nitpickers are like the cartoon of Diogenes looking over the man before him, and saying: “I was hoping for a taller honest man.”
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2016-01-27.html
The Titanicettes have only one issue apparently: Icebergs.
As a business owner, he has spoken to the things that matter most to me: trade and taxation. He actually understands why currency manipulation has destroyed our manufacturing base.
He talks about the economy, while the others only talk about themselves.
Angry? You’re assigning anger to my supper for Trump? Wrong assumption. But after reading your reply, you state assumptions as fact quite routinely.
It’s a personality thing. It is no longer about the person’s actual positions and past statements. Trump could come out as a communist and his supporters wouldn’t care at this point. It’s sad how many conservatives are ready and willing to drop conservatism at the drop of hat in order to flock around a “dynamic” RINO/Lib.
Homeland Security might be a good fit
Then! Cruz Zombies! Stay home and do not vote like real losers in life.
Speaking of real losers in life!
Fox losers announcing that Trump wins all of SC.
Many like you are one step away from being pushed over the edge, and they won't look back.
Levin has said he will vote for the nominee. So your attempt to paint everyone with the same brush is fraudulent. Every camp has voters who will support whomever and those who will not.
For me, I will not aid someone I see as unfit for high office. But that’s me.
Anyway, the Trump way to is to smear and cut ties with absolutely everyone who dares to disagree with him on anything. No need to deny later support. He destroys them right now. I hardly think team Trump can take any high ground on “playing well with others.” This thread and many more demonstrate the plan: Insult and destroy your way to victory. Good luck with that.
I’ve had Cuban food before, and some of it is downright fantastic.
NavVet I could just about have written your post myself.
My conclusion is that about two thirds of Republican voters want the establishment brought down, and about 60% of those believe that a belligerent attitude, rather than principled conservatism, is the tool to bring it down. The dialogs we see on FR demonstrate this. While neither Cruz nor Trump supporters are blameless, I consistently see pro-Cruz articles immediately met with insulting photoshopped graphics (some truly funny), ad hominem, irrelevant distractions, and name calling, much as Trump himself is conducting his campaign. Having said that, I also recognize that some of the Cruz supporters need to take a break here, and I can see the flaws and mis-steps in the Cruz campaign as well.
While I appreciate a combative attitude when it escorts Jorge Ramos out of a press conference for disrupting, I don’t place much faith in name calling, bluster, and a history of donating to Democrats. However a majority of the insurgent vote disagrees with me.
A courteous, fair-minded, and well-spoken Trump supporter reminded me just today in a thread that we are witness to exciting and interesting times.
Spoken like a true Trump supporter.
To win the general, you need more than those who voted for you in the primaries. For Trump to win the general, he will need to do more than attack Hillary.
He will need to overcome his high negative opinion and low second choice numbers from Republican primary voters. Trump has a lot of work just to get the Republicans, much less any crossover votes.
I make a pork loin marinated in orange juice with jalapenos, slow-cooked, and a very good black beans dish. My church’s Spanish congregation, which includes a few Cubans (and more Puerto Ricans) agrees that it’s very good.
Also a frozen rum punch, but that doesn’t take skill, just a blender!
Yeah, he says things off the cuff, but he comes back and changes them if he's wrong.
You don't become as successful as Trump by treating people badly and not listening to them and taking good advice. Here is a quote from Art of the Deal, courtesy of ifinnegan. It is all anyone needs to know about Trump's judgement, and lack thereof.
I think of Jimmy Carter. After he lost the election to Ronald Reagan, Carter came to see me in my office. He told me he was seeking contributions to the Jimmy Carter library. I asked how much he had in mind. And he said, "Donald I would be very appreciative if you contributed 5 million dollars."
I was dumbfounded. I didn't even answer him.
But that experience also taught me something. Until then, I never understood how Jimmy Carter became president. The answer is that as poorly qualified as he was for the job, Jimmy Carter had the nerve, the guts, the balls, to ask for something extraordinary. That ability above all helped him get elected president. But then, of course, the American people caught on pretty quickly that Carter couldnât do the job, and he lost in a landslide when he ran for reelection.
Ronald Reagan is another example. He is so smooth and so effective a performer that he completely won over the American people. Only now, nearly seven years later, are people beginning to question whether thereâs anything beneath that smile.
I see the same thing in my business, which is full of people who talk a good game but don't deliver.
Say, what?
I stand corrected. Trump is undeniably Reagan reincarnate. Without question.
I dunno, it never gets old, I’m still scrolling through one or two of them a day, enjoying the sparring and sporadic firefights.
Sure, he’s spoken to a lot of stuff. Doesn’t mean he’s said anything he believes. Almost every position he’s taken has been contradicted within six months, some within just a couple of days.
here you go with the insults again. Anger is pretty obviously in there, non-angry people don’t need to throw insults.
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