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School books CAN call D-Day 'invasion': Berlin court
TheLocal.de ^ | 04 Feb 2016 14:22 GMT+01:00

Posted on 02/05/2016 10:15:37 AM PST by Olog-hai

A parent demanded that a book taught at his son's school which described the Second World War D-Day landings as an invasion be taken off the curriculum. A Berlin court disagreed.

The history book taught in his son's school described the Normandy landings, in which the Allied forces made the biggest amphibious landing in history on France's Atlantic coast, as an "invasion".

This was both inappropriate and an insult to the soldiers who died in the assault, said the Kreuzberg parent.

The Allies could not be seen as invaders because they were liberating an occupied land, he argued. ...

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TOPICS: Education; History; Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: dday; germany; historicalrevision; invasion
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To: atomic_dog

When historians say D-Day was the largest amphibious invasion, I believe they are referring to not just the total number of ground troops, but also the number of ships and aircraft involved.


41 posted on 02/05/2016 11:31:20 AM PST by 04-Bravo
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To: Olog-hai

Will they be able to cover the Muslim invasion of 2015/16 in their history books?


42 posted on 02/05/2016 11:42:41 AM PST by alternatives? (Cruz or Trump)
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To: Olog-hai

There was no break in government from the time when France was still fighting until the occupation by the British and Americans (and their ‘Free French’ puppet government). Indeed, de Gaulle, recognizing the threat that the resistance was to his self-appointed leadership arranged for the Germans to liquidate a large body of the resistance in the Vercors area.


43 posted on 02/05/2016 11:43:16 AM PST by PAR35
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To: alternatives?

If the Muslims win, there won’t be any history books anymore.


44 posted on 02/05/2016 12:02:09 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: dfwgator

Lol. I hear ya. As a Second generation German we always kinda got a kick out or it. However it does grate on ya sometimes.
Somewhere during the War we had family members shooting at each other somewhere! ;)


45 posted on 02/05/2016 12:02:34 PM PST by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: PAR35
Indeed, de Gaulle, recognizing the threat that the resistance was to his self-appointed leadership arranged for the Germans to liquidate a large body of the resistance in the Vercors area.

Reference please. I've never heard of this. Why wasn't he shot for it?

46 posted on 02/05/2016 12:03:42 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Olog-hai

You can hear what they called as it happened

https://archive.org/details/Complete_Broadcast_Day_D-Day


47 posted on 02/05/2016 12:05:26 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator; Olog-hai
For a long time the US actually recognized Vichy as the legitimate government of France.

Great point. The United States maintained diplomatic relations with the French government until after it launched an unprovoked attack (sort of like Pearl Harbor) on the French forces in North Africa. Diplomatic relations ended in November, 1942. Admiral William Leahy was the U.S. Ambassador.

Gaston Henry-Haye was the French ambassador to the US during this period. http://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19410310,00.html

Not relevant to this discussion, but some interesting early war material here: http://adst.org/2013/06/the-nazis-take-paris/

48 posted on 02/05/2016 12:07:48 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Talisker
Reference please. I've never heard of this. Why wasn't he shot for it?

He wasn't shot because he was successful.

Basically, the resistance in northern France was to disrupt German lines of supply during the Normandy Invasion, then those in southern France to support Dragoon in August.

DeGaulle signaled the resistance in Vercors (an isolated plateau west of Grenoble in southern France) to rise up in connection with the Normandy landing. They did so, and proclaimed a free French republic independent of the Gaullists. Of course, it would be months before relief could reach them, and although the mountain assaults were difficult, the Germans did liquidate the rebellion. The British made some effort to support the Vercors by air from North Africa, but it really didn't impact the battle.

Google battle of vercors 1944

There have been 3 or 4 books, and there are a few articles that shed some light on the battle. For a contemporary propaganda piece, see http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/17919378 . It, of course, leaves out the Gaullist role.

49 posted on 02/05/2016 12:22:08 PM PST by PAR35
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To: MotorCityBuck
Arguably the best scene in a overall great movie.

Heh heh, this was the best part:


50 posted on 02/05/2016 12:23:22 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
"... on what the Berlin Radio calls 'the invasion'..."
Interesting way of putting it.
51 posted on 02/05/2016 12:29:15 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: dfwgator

No doubt.


52 posted on 02/05/2016 12:33:13 PM PST by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: Olog-hai
Oh some poor flower has suffered a microagression and is butthurt

What is the view fron the guy who ran it?

World War II: D-Day, The Invasion of Normandy

53 posted on 02/05/2016 7:13:02 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ('Life is a comedy to those who think and a tragedy for those who feel' - Horace Walpole)
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