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Ted Cruz Said He Was a Christian First and an American Second?
snopes.com ^ | 2-4-2016 | Dan Evon

Posted on 02/04/2016 1:59:59 PM PST by Citizen Zed

TRUE: In February 2016, a rumor started circulating online that Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz had said that he was a "Christian first" and an "American second." While these words were a genuine quote from the Texas, they were typically presented in a manner that lacked context. The quote first appeared in a 20 January 2016 article by Politico about a campaign stop Cruz made in New Hampshire. Cruz was asked to respond to comments that former Kansas senator Robert Dole had made to the New York Times in a recent interview questioning Cruz's loyalty to the GOP, and he responded by saying that his allegiance to the United States and to conservative principles trumped his party membership (and that his commitment to his religion ranked higher than them all): ["It is exactly right that in terms of who I am, I am a Christian first. I am an American second. I'm a conservative third. And I'm a Republican fourth. And I'll tell ya, there are a lot of Americans who feel the same way."] We've found no video that captured this remark from Cruz, but the quote was also documented by the Washington Post. Cruz has made no secret of his plans to court conservative Christians during his presidential campaign.  He announced his run in March 2015 at Christian college Liberty University, saying he hopes to fight the federal government's "assault" on religious liberty, and he also pledged to "defend the sanctity of life" and "uphold the sacrament of marriage."

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To: Hugin

I know what the Carson campaign said and I know what the Cruz campaign said.

The fact is I think Carson knows his chances in NH are slim to nill. Therefore, he isn’t going to spend time going there ( or maybe he will, but I’m still waiting. He was in DC for the Prayer breakfast today, NH is just one hour away by plane).

His telling CNN that he was going to Florida to “get a fresh set of clothes” gives his opponents the impression that he is giving up. At least for New Hampshire ( I know I’d get that impression if I heard it for the first time ).

I can assure Dr. Carson that he would have no trouble finding some fresh set of clothes in New Hampshire.

Political reporters and strategists have no idea what to make of Carson’s decision. The most obvious theory is that he is preparing to drop out, but his campaign insists that is not the case.

It is unfortunate that Cruz ( and also Rubio ) staffers and supporters ( e.g. Steve King ) misinterpreted it as quitting and posted it as such.

But to say that there was MALICIOUS INTENT on the part of Cruz requires a lot of knowledge of his intent.

You may not believe Cruz, but I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.

And again, where is Dr. Carson in NH?

He went to Washington DC today to attend the Prayer breakfast. NH is but an hour flight from DC.

Is he going to NH or not? If not, is he giving up on the state? If so, how is the report about him “dropping out” ( at least when it comes to NH ) inaccurate?


81 posted on 02/04/2016 4:01:53 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: NorthMountain
Re>By your own admission, you're looking for an idolater.

Not at all. I asked if God was running and if so I would gladly vote Him.

82 posted on 02/04/2016 4:09:31 PM PST by IC Ken
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To: Kartographer; IC Ken
The statesmen of the Declaration of Independence appealed to the Laws of Nature and Nature's God over laws passed by parliament.

"We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, . . . "

No law inconsistent with Natural and God's Laws is legitimate.

83 posted on 02/04/2016 4:11:19 PM PST by Jacquerie (To shun Article V is to embrace tyranny.)
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To: Ann Archy

“You sure know NOTHING about HOLY Communion.”

Ann, I was being sarcastic.

I am not only Catholic, my brother is a retired Catholic Bishop and I served more than my time as an alter boy.

My post is a reference to when Trump tried to chunk money into a plate at a Protestant church where they pass around the Communion (bread or whatever they use) instead of accepting the Body of Christ at the rail. Apparently, you didn’t hear about it.

You can now apologize.


84 posted on 02/04/2016 4:12:03 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Rubio are sure losers. No more!)
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To: catfish1957
"Wow...tough times at that church. Plate having to do double duty for both communion and the offering."

It was a Protestant service where they pass around Communion into the pews. Bread in a plate and wine (or probably grape juice) in little plastic cups, like this:



The offering plate is a separate plate.

Trump tried to chunk money into the Communion bread plate, on top of the Body of Christ.
85 posted on 02/04/2016 4:18:17 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Rubio are sure losers. No more!)
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To: IC Ken

hmmm. A symptom of the cracks in the foundation created by footholds of the enemy of Christianity and the One True God of Israel upon Whom rests our rights.

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

John Adams


86 posted on 02/04/2016 4:26:32 PM PST by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: scooby321

Beitbart isn’t here. Neither is Breitbart.

There is, however, a lame malware-infested blog around called Breitbart.


87 posted on 02/04/2016 4:29:26 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: D Rider

Makes sense.


88 posted on 02/04/2016 4:30:05 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: IC Ken

Yes, we are told to render unto Caesar etc, however, and this is absolutely magnificent, He is now waiting for the time of His return and will rule with a rod of iron. No unenforced laws. The details of the changes are too great to get into here but, sigh, remember the prophecy at His birth, “peace on earth...”


89 posted on 02/04/2016 4:33:58 PM PST by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: huldah1776

you get it praise be to God


90 posted on 02/04/2016 5:14:39 PM PST by IC Ken
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To: IC Ken
>> So does Islam. <<

So do most world religions. The followers of the Dalai Lama put being a Buddhist over being a citizen of communist China.

>> Again I am looking for a President not a preacher. <<

Fine with me. Nobody said you had to agree with Cruz's religious beliefs in order to vote for him. I'm voting for him because of his position on the issues.

91 posted on 02/04/2016 6:46:55 PM PST by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: IC Ken
You obviously lack a solid foundation for moral decision-making. Why should anyone with any degree of integrity view your statements as worthy of even the tiniest bit of consideration?

I pity you.

92 posted on 02/04/2016 6:51:08 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah: Satan's current alias. "Obama": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Citizen Zed

Ann nails it!

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/02/03/ann-coulter-speaking-at-donald-trump-rally/


93 posted on 02/04/2016 8:49:10 PM PST by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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To: IC Ken

I wonder how the people at the mosque Obama visited would answer the question? Maybe a Christian President is exactly what we need.


94 posted on 02/04/2016 10:41:25 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Obama Rules of Engagement: Hands up Don't Shoot)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

sorry, snarky.


95 posted on 02/05/2016 1:48:36 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Mike Darancette
Re>Maybe a Christian President is exactly what we need.

When have we not had one? Everyone running is a Christian.

96 posted on 02/05/2016 4:33:57 AM PST by IC Ken
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To: Jemian
FYI, today, February 5, 1855, two protestant missionaries first set foot on the island of New Guinea. Today, many others, including me, follow in their footsteps. There are over 250 language groups on this island; most don’t have a Bible in their own language. Please consider being a Bible translator.

It would be better, long term, for them to learn English, than to have things translated into obscure local languages. English would allow them better access into the world economy.

97 posted on 02/05/2016 4:41:11 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
It was a Protestant service where they pass around Communion into the pews. Bread in a plate and wine (or probably grape juice) in little plastic cups, like this:

Being Catholic (where we go up to the altar rail for communion) I might have made the same mistake.

98 posted on 02/05/2016 4:45:55 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: PapaBear3625

If participating in the world economy were the ultimate goal, you may be right.

But, that isn’t the goal. The goal is for a person to be able to read God’s love letter to him, in a person’s heart language, the one he understands best, and so be made righteous by the transforming power of the Holy Spirit. I don’t think I can explain it any better. Reading the Bible, or anything for that matter, outside of a person’s own language misses the nuances and connotations of the primary culture. So, long term, the best thing is to preserve the languages before a culture is swallowed up and forgotten. Even one person is valuable.

I am not expecting to persuade you; I would be very surprised if I had. I’m merely putting forth a different viewpoint. Feeling as you do, I am not expecting you to become my neighbor here any time soon, nor am I asking for you to make an investment. Just don’t try to hinder me, please.


99 posted on 02/05/2016 4:55:04 AM PST by Jemian
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To: Jemian
Reading the Bible, or anything for that matter, outside of a person's own language misses the nuances and connotations of the primary culture.

In order to capture the nuances and connotations, the translator would need to be a native speaker of the destination language, and also very fluent in a language where there is an existing Bible.

So, regardless, for each language group you will need to develop people who know English (or whatever) very well to serve as translators. Which means you will need to have language classes.

100 posted on 02/05/2016 6:48:11 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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