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The Internet’s favorite conspiracies would involve too many people to stay secret, says science
National Post ^ | February 2, 2016 | Abby Ohlheiser

Posted on 02/03/2016 5:41:00 AM PST by rickmichaels

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To: The_Victor

“Science” is supposed to change when presented with contradictory data.

One secret held by thousands for several years was the development of the atomic bomb during WWII.

Another secret held by dozens for almost fifty years was the cracking of the Enigma code by Turing etal for British Intelligence during WWII.

Will “science” change their view—don’t hold your breath.


21 posted on 02/03/2016 6:39:58 AM PST by cgbg (Epistemology is not a spectator sport.)
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To: rickmichaels

6 people (if my memory serves correctly) knew about Watergate, and they couldn’t even keep that one secret.


22 posted on 02/03/2016 6:40:32 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: dirtboy
You're right. It has been revealed that there is actually an active conspiracy to falsify data and conclusions in support of global warming, anthropomorphic global warming, rapid climate change, or whatever they are calling their scheme now.

I know, personally, thanks to education and several decades of experience that what they are doing with their computer "models" is completely invalid. The output of these so-called simulations is really just pure fantasy scripted and tweaked and tuned to provide whatever result the people with the $ backing them want to see. It is not that the results are invalid because they've "adjusted" the numbers to get the results they want. No, actually it is worse. The results are invalid because they can never be valid in the way they are sold - the entire modeling approach is not and never will be predictive. It does not matter what numbers they put in, or what they get out, there will never be any more than a pure random chance that the results turn out to be correct. In other words, spend millions on models or throw darts at a board, both have the same chance of being correct.

23 posted on 02/03/2016 6:44:32 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: rickmichaels

“440,000 people would have to be working together “

I guess they never heard of “bias”.

On the flip side, how are the “deniers” managing to work together when the brilliant “scientists” can’t seem to pull it off?


24 posted on 02/03/2016 6:45:09 AM PST by fruser1
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To: rickmichaels

If NASA faked the moon landing, by now they would have faked something better. ;-)


25 posted on 02/03/2016 6:46:01 AM PST by r_barton (We the People of the United States...)
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To: ChessExpert
But this just in: Sea Levels Could Rise At Least 20 Feet | Climate Central!
26 posted on 02/03/2016 6:48:02 AM PST by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: The_Victor

I have always suggested that at least 50% of government workers are too lazy, or too low in the food chain to care about a conspiracy.

I think that 49% are too stupid to care about a conspiracy.

The remaining 0.99% are smart and ambitious. They are the ones busying stealing from us.

The final .01% are the true believers. Is that enough to cover up and conspire the stuff that is going on?

I DO believe that a cabal of very rich people control most of the industry in the world. I think they can control the politicians. It is not a conspiracy. It is what the “Royal” class used to do up until the early 1900s. Industry and Finances have taken over that elite class. There is nothing new with that “conspiracy.”

And it is right out in the open.


27 posted on 02/03/2016 6:49:58 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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28 posted on 02/03/2016 6:50:20 AM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Donate monthly and end FReepathons.)
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To: r_barton
If NASA faked the moon landing, by now they would have faked something better. ;-)

Like the claim that the Catholic church changed the Bible. Yet forgot to add something so simple and basic as just one prayer to an angel or early martyr in Heaven.

29 posted on 02/03/2016 6:51:33 AM PST by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned and destitute sinner+ trust Him to save you, then follow Him!)
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To: ChessExpert

Actually, none of them “say” anything. You have to be able to vocalize something in order to “say” anything.

Scientists may say something.

Editors, even Headline Editors, write things. Unless you are speaking with them directly.


30 posted on 02/03/2016 6:52:08 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: rickmichaels

Just because the truth is exposed doesn’t mean that the conspiracy will be undone. Consider BO’s fake birth certificate, TWA 800, muslim participation in the OKC bombing, etc. The US government routinely lies, denies truth, and does it with media complicity. Look, if the Allies in WWII could convince Hilter that the invasion would not happen at Normandy, what deceptions can be brought on American citizens?


31 posted on 02/03/2016 6:54:13 AM PST by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: daniel1212

The Catholic Church did not “change” the bible, but the Catholic Church did define what was in their bible.

If you think about it, if you are operating a “world wide” organization you need to have everyone on the same page. You need to get together and come up with a standard set of operating rules.

When you take the “religion” out of the “bible process”, it makes perfect sense that some stuff had to be left on the editing floor.


32 posted on 02/03/2016 6:55:53 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: ShadowAce
And yet people cannot will not believe.

Fixed it back.

33 posted on 02/03/2016 6:59:03 AM PST by Gamecock ( Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul...Matthew 10:28)
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To: rickmichaels

the AGW ‘conspiracy’ isn’t a conspiracy per se, it is more a groupthink situation. the story is telling, and loses credibility by the ‘conspiracies’ it picks to illustrate it’s point, and which it ignores. perhaps the biggest is the JFK, which isn’t even mentioned.


34 posted on 02/03/2016 7:01:44 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: rickmichaels

The National Reconnaissance Office that controls the nations spy satellites was kept a pretty good secret for about 40 years. There were rumors of the existence of military spy satellites, but not so much of a giant civilian government organization that managed them.


35 posted on 02/03/2016 7:02:54 AM PST by r_barton (We the People of the United States...)
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To: rickmichaels

Evil government, “Tomorrow you will spray this deadly poison chemtrail over Springfield.”

Pilot, “My family reunion is in Springfield tomorrow.”

EG, “Just do it.”

P, “Yes sir.”


36 posted on 02/03/2016 7:17:20 AM PST by eartrumpet
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To: rickmichaels

Would that be the same “science” that pushes AGW?


37 posted on 02/03/2016 7:45:18 AM PST by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: rickmichaels

I remember back in 1968-69 when SCIENCE AND MECHANICS magazine had a series on how all the Russian man into space shots were all faked. I never took that magazine’s “science” seriously after that.


38 posted on 02/03/2016 7:56:46 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Gamecock
My grandmother thought the moon landing was fake. She was also convinced that rasslin' was real.

Simple solution: Rassling On The Moon.

39 posted on 02/03/2016 7:59:04 AM PST by Lazamataz (I'm an Islamophobe??? Well, good. When it comes to Islam, there's plenty to Phobe about.)
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To: nevergore
Mine thought batboy was real...

That's the kid who runs and collects the bat after the batter tosses it away after hitting the baseball. Batboys ARE real! You need to apologize to granny. (GRIN)

40 posted on 02/03/2016 8:46:38 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue....)
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