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To: Nextrush

How did it look? Is there substance to the FBI’s account of the shooting?


4 posted on 01/29/2016 7:36:59 AM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter

He was in a snowbank when he got shot after he exited the vehicle, hands up but probably also unsteady in the snowbank allowing the notion from authorities ‘he was reaching for a pocket with a gun in it’.

Here in PA I’ve had to battle snowbanks after the big snow and the ability to balance one’s body in them is difficult and I am a man of comparable age to Mr. Finicum.


6 posted on 01/29/2016 7:45:03 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: skeeter
There was a video shot overhead by an airplane. Three LEO vehicles had a roadblock and the pickup tried to veer around them in the snow and got stuck. A figure jumps out of the truck, tries to run a few yards and then is confronted front and back by men with drawn weapons. He appears to reach down to his side at least two times and is then shot. He did not charge anyone but it does look like he may have been reaching for a weapon.

I would like to see on-the ground video before forming a final opinion here.

7 posted on 01/29/2016 7:45:16 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: skeeter

He came around the corner, sees the roadblock, hits his brakes and then tries to go around the roadblock, with brake lights off. They get stuck in the snow and he comes running out of the truck. Not working in his favor was that he came out of the truck quickly and was turning around a lot, then his hands went down towards his jacket.


11 posted on 01/29/2016 7:49:19 AM PST by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: skeeter

The video is taken by a drone, and too far away to see much.

My first question - any other video from ground level?


15 posted on 01/29/2016 8:20:56 AM PST by lacrew
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To: skeeter

Vid at Oregon live link:

http://www.oregonlive.com/#/0

Looks to me like he reached for his pocket a couple of times.

4 minute vid. Shooting at around 1:45 to 2:00 area.

At about 2:30 as the plane goes around the side, there appear to be little flashes in the snow outside the passenger side of the truck. Not sure what was going on there (flash grenades?).

There’s also a spray snow after that around 2:45 - 2:50 which looks like FBI shot into passenger door. Windows were up. Could be how other guy got shot in arm.


18 posted on 01/29/2016 8:45:21 AM PST by fruser1
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To: skeeter

Yes, aerial footage released. No dashcam or bodycam yet.

Full footage here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAGxDWKrjPQ

Vehicle was stopped by LEOs on a straightaway.

LEOs drew weapons but never closed in on vehicle.

Apparently something got driver (Finicum) agitated as seen in video. He sped off from LEOs.

Around a curve ahead, a roadblock had been set up previously by LEOs.

Vehicle taps brakes approaching curve, then full brakes when roadblock comes into view.

Vehicle veers away from roadblock to left side, barely missing a LEO.

Finicum exits vehicle with hands up. LEOs approach, Finicum reaches down and seems to be going around and around as he walks/stumbles.

Finicum is shot dead and lies on the ground.


23 posted on 01/29/2016 9:33:48 AM PST by angryoldfatman
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