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Obama by Another Name is Still a Bad Idea
Vanity | 1/24/16 | pgyanke

Posted on 01/24/2016 8:51:48 AM PST by pgyanke

In 2008, America elected a demagogue who was hailed as a savior to his people. He used Alinsky tactics and a divide-and-conquer approach to bully his way through the election--and after.

Taking the same approach in this election just because your demagogue is saying what you want to hear sounds a lot like the definition of insanity.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: alinskytacticsonfr; ntsa; obama; stfu; trump
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To: davisfh
Trump is deceptive and, as such, is an unknown quantity.

Thank you. That's the point I'm trying to make. Instead of cheerleading, I'd prefer to see FR get back to digging deeply.

21 posted on 01/24/2016 9:20:06 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: pgyanke

By equating Trump with Obama, you produce the very vile that prompted your post in the first place. That isn’t progress.


22 posted on 01/24/2016 9:21:46 AM PST by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: CodeToad
You fail to understand that elections are not won by logical intelligence but by emotion and wallets.

And it is nonsense political calculations like this that prevent conservatives from winning when it counts.

23 posted on 01/24/2016 9:22:36 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: pgyanke

To me it shows they are desperate to try and stay relevant by hitching to the powerhouse candidate.


24 posted on 01/24/2016 9:23:05 AM PST by paintriot (Desperado...why don't you come to your senses.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’d take Cruz over Trump, but without Trump in the race we’d just be choosing between Jethro or Mario.
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My thoughts exactly


25 posted on 01/24/2016 9:25:26 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: sparklite2
By equating Trump with Obama...

And it is surface-level thinking without regards to the actual thoughts expressed that prevent actual conversations. Look at Trump's recent tack to the left and the lack of concern by supposedly conservative people. In the cult of personality, all that matters is that your guy was attacked... not the substance of the concerns expressed.

26 posted on 01/24/2016 9:26:23 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: pgyanke

“And it is nonsense political calculations like this that prevent conservatives from winning when it counts. “

No, it is the conservative “purists” that lose.

They are like “Born Again” Christians: Put 100 in a room and you’ll get 101 opinions as to who is a Christian and they’ll all claim the others cannot possibly be Christian because they don’t practice their faith like they do.


27 posted on 01/24/2016 9:27:32 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: pgyanke

The Democrats and the Left have their Obama; we, on the right, have ours. Those here that support Mr. Trump should not look with contempt on the idiots who voted for Obama because they are not much better.


28 posted on 01/24/2016 9:28:18 AM PST by Stepan12 (Our present appeasementof Islam is the Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.)
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To: paintriot

They are simply facing reality.
Looks like Trump is going to be nominated and will thrash Hillary.
They don’t want to be left out.


29 posted on 01/24/2016 9:28:54 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Stepan12

Stephan..your bitter response like many of the Cruz supporters has cost him any chance he had. You have hurt him just like Glen Beck has destroyed him.


30 posted on 01/24/2016 9:30:28 AM PST by IC Ken
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To: IC Ken
Stephan..your bitter response like many of the Cruz supporters has cost him any chance he had. You have hurt him just like Glen Beck has destroyed him.

If what you say is true, then what I have been saying all along until the election is true. Namely, that America is lost or gone and only a military takeover with a Pinochet type at the head can set things straight until we can get back to something of the Constitution and the rule of law.

Totus mundis stultizat

Emperor Joseph of Austro Hungary

31 posted on 01/24/2016 9:35:43 AM PST by Stepan12 (Our present appeasementof Islam is the Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.)
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To: pgyanke

The surface of “Obama by Another Name is Still a Bad Idea” is saying Obama and Trump differ in name only. You wrote it, I didn’t, and it cannot bear the weight, nor should it, of serious consideration. Apparently you, by another name, are a jilted girlfriend who was for Trump before you were against him. And now that you think you’ve seen the light, the rest of us languish in ignorance. There’s an old adage that there’s nothing worse than a reformed drunk. It fits.


32 posted on 01/24/2016 9:36:08 AM PST by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: sparklite2
The surface of “Obama by Another Name is Still a Bad Idea” is saying Obama and Trump differ in name only.

My mistake. If I'd known you were incapable of reading anything but the headline, I would have ignored you from the start.

33 posted on 01/24/2016 9:42:13 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: pgyanke

I think you should look closer to home.

Trump is not as you are trying to paint him and anyone who actually looks at original source information knows that. You want to magnify his freckles. No candidate is completely pure and Trump knocks the really important issues out of the stadium.

Cruz is devolving and is the one that has been lying and manipulating the image he paints for his supporters. So perhaps you want to actually read the source material on Cruz as well.

For Trump we have 20 years of positions to read with some evolution, some clarification. For Cruz we have about 5 years with several significant inadequately explained hairpin turns. Which one wants to include the whole country, seems to me that’s Trump?

Which one seeks to demonize segments, invent straw men and is subject to the influence of the same class he is demonizing? I am comfortable that I have done the research and evaluation to know it ain’t Trump.


34 posted on 01/24/2016 9:43:23 AM PST by JayGalt
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To: pgyanke

I read it, it’s first order schlock, unworthy of someone with your education. If you’re not sufficiently embarrassed to have the moderators delete this exercise is hypocrisy, then I can’t help.


35 posted on 01/24/2016 9:45:20 AM PST by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: pgyanke
I really don't like what's happening to FR in this primary. There is very little discourse...

WHAT? Apparently, you haven't been reading the threads.

36 posted on 01/24/2016 9:48:35 AM PST by SMM48
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To: pgyanke
You say:

"Trump is sounding more and more like an Alinsky Democrat every day... and his supporters don't care. "

But what I hear is:

"Waaa, Waaa, cruz is losing because of you poopy pants"

Honest to God, You Cruz supporters are becoming a caricature of your selves.
37 posted on 01/24/2016 9:50:14 AM PST by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - losers are not winners)
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To: Stepan12
Re>Namely, that America is lost or gone and only a military takeover with a Pinochet type at the head can set things straight

WOW. I find you and Glen Beck to be similar to a clock that was design in Germany's black forest.

38 posted on 01/24/2016 9:55:51 AM PST by IC Ken
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39 posted on 01/24/2016 10:03:25 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: pgyanke
Please make your case. Detail how Trump and Obama are the same. Personally I find that statement revolting and shallow. It deserves to be kicked to the curb and washed down the drain of epically stupid remarks, unless it can be substantiated.
40 posted on 01/24/2016 10:04:57 AM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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