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OATH Expanding and Fragmenting Slugs
alloutdoor.com ^ | 1/14/2016 | Oleg Volk

Posted on 01/19/2016 6:37:15 AM PST by Jed Eckert

Taking 12ga to a whole new level of destruction.

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12ga slugs have been rightly known as good stoppers on dangerous game, but tend to over-penetrate in hominids. OATH Ammunition has two new designs that solve over-penetration along with greatly improving reliability in box-fed shotguns.

Above is their 1.25oz 1600fps all-copper slug designed to expand to an incredible 2.5" and penetrate just enough to punch through a hostile human with little energy left to harm anyone downrange. If you've ever heard the expression: "a hole big enough to toss a cat through," consider that cats can fit any opening larger than their heads, and smaller breeds have heads under 2.5" in circumference. The copper or aluminum expander die visible in the middle ensures reliable opening even through heavy clothing. The die itself penetrates deeper than the expanded slug.

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Loaded in machined brass cases, these cartridges won't deform out of round under spring pressure even in 10 or 12 shot box magazines of shotguns like MKA1919 or Saiga. These photos show display samples. The actual production slugs have sharp leading edges. These will be available in 2.75" length and also in 2" for tube shotguns that can feed shorter ammunition and would benefit from additional capacity.

The billet machined cases don't suffer from stress cracks like the drawn variety and have been tested to 1,000+ reloads with no measurable degradation. In both WW1, WW2, and Vietnam, US Army used paper or plastic hulled shells and found them lacking in resistance to humidity, eventually going to brass. The OATH loads just starts out right. Having solved the challenge of making machined reloadable aluminum cases, OATH will also offer ballistically matched practice loads at lower price than these premium shells.

12ga-brasscaseThe frangible slug is enormously heavy at 2.25oz but slower-1200fps-so that the muzzle energy of the two loads is similar at 3100ft-lbs. Upon impact, this all-brass (except for the 40 grain copper expander die) projectile breaks up into half-dozen 158 grain sharp triangular pieces, each spreading about 15 degrees to the side of the initial direction. Penetration is likewise limited to the depth of a rib cage, producing very good stopping effect without over penetration.

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On the left, experimental expanding slug with a flat die, on the right, the fragmenting slug. Both may be fired from a smooth bore with roughly two inch dispersion at 25 yards, but rifled shotguns are ideal for best accuracy. The lighter projectile has been tested to yield groups under 2 inches at 100 yards with Remington 870 Deer Gun. Precise machining and jacket-less monolithic construction have their pluses.

The high energy and impressive precision turn modern rifled shotguns into light safari rifles, suitable for most North American game at short range and eminently functional for defensive social use. Just don't fire them from lightweight single shot or side by side shotguns-your shoulder won't like it! In a gas operated autoloader or a defensive pump with a full-length tube, recoil is far more reasonable.

Both of these loads will be available for purchase on OATH web site by the end of January 2016.

- Oleg Volk


TOPICS: Hobbies; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; hunting; shooting
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To: ctdonath2
Can't speak on NY law but the Feds don't have a problem with rifled barrel shotguns according to ATF. Rifled shotgun barrels for the Remington 870 have been available for several years.

Brass cased shotgun shells have been around a very long time. Popular mostly in Europe but they do have a small following here in the US.

21 posted on 01/19/2016 8:29:31 AM PST by Jed Eckert (The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem)
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To: MHGinTN

Supposedly they were run through an 870. Looks like the center part is recessed. Is there some other issue I’m not seeing?


22 posted on 01/19/2016 8:35:30 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: Lazamataz
OOOOOOO sexy-lookin slugs.

Pity I don't have a semiautomatic 12 gauge! :)

Those slugs are just begging to be fired from a Saiga 12

Too bad I missed out back when they were in the $300 range :(

23 posted on 01/19/2016 8:55:35 AM PST by Jed Eckert (The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem)
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To: meatloaf

What are the length dimensions of the shells ... an 870 will feed short shells that will not cycle reliably in a Mossberg. Personally, I don’t like the shoulder of the casing that could catch on the rim of the firing chamber. I’ve loaded and shot brass case 410 shells, for the novelty. I seal them with a hot glue cap. There is no shell ‘rim’ to catch on the action anywhere. This shell looks like it has a rim ‘trap’.


24 posted on 01/19/2016 9:22:04 AM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN

Good point! Thanks!


25 posted on 01/19/2016 11:28:40 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: Jed Eckert

Bud’s Gunshop was selling a nice semi-auto 12 gage from Turkey with pistol grip stock and a muzzle door breecher choke, six shot 2 3/4 magazine that can take a mag extension for Remingtons FOR $279 ! The gun has a few Youtube vids on it, but Bud’s apparently had problems being reported by buyers, and after I bought one I found the recoil spring has a preferred end (one end is tighter than the other). I cleaned the gun thoroughly when I got it, oiled it up with CLP and made sure the tight end of the spring was against the receiver and it shot pheasant loads all day without a hitch! Best $298 bucks I ever spent on a gun. It is loosened up enough that I can now cycle #5 shot through it so long as it is high brass. I put an IC choke in it and added a mag extension and it is 37 inches long with a seven plus one capacity.


26 posted on 01/19/2016 11:53:10 AM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN

Thanks for the info. I’ll check it out. Much as I hate to admit it there are some pretty decent firearms produced in Turkey.


27 posted on 01/19/2016 12:09:40 PM PST by Jed Eckert (The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem)
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To: Jed Eckert
OATH Ammunition has two new designs that solve over-penetration

Not a problem in MY 12-gauge!

28 posted on 01/19/2016 1:19:38 PM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: Jed Eckert

Bob Dunlap went over there and schooled ‘em up good.


29 posted on 01/19/2016 2:05:37 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Jed Eckert

BTW, after I did a write-up on the gun at Bud’s the price has jumped to $00 plus. Ho figure; perhaps someone realized the problem was simple to fix?


30 posted on 01/19/2016 7:35:23 PM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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