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1 posted on 01/15/2016 5:53:58 PM PST by Enlightened1
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Straw man!


2 posted on 01/15/2016 5:56:52 PM PST by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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Tribe still campaigning for Hillary, I see.


3 posted on 01/15/2016 5:56:58 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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So it’s about the Soil....

Even a U.S. base or U.S. Embassy is considered U.S. Soil in a foreign country.

One thing for sure. The Democrats have announced they will go to court over this. I promise you the GOPe is probably help funding it.

Cruz is going to get set up by a shopped Judge if he becomes the nominee. The Establishment will then replace him with Rubio or Jeb at that point.


4 posted on 01/15/2016 5:57:51 PM PST by Enlightened1
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SQUIRREL!


5 posted on 01/15/2016 5:58:04 PM PST by apostoli (Time to thump the nose of the parrots.)
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It's Boston.. liberal and full of BS but there were a few good things :


6 posted on 01/15/2016 5:58:27 PM PST by maddog55 (America Rising a new Civil War needs to happen.)
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It’s a sad day on FR when Tribe is held out as an authority.


7 posted on 01/15/2016 5:58:53 PM PST by Oklahoma
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required that someone actually be born on US soil to be a "natural born" citizen

Is Tribe saying that any child of an American ambassador or serviceman or officer who happened to be born overseas was not considered a natural-born American citizen? What a load.

8 posted on 01/15/2016 5:59:51 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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Where were all of these exspurts when Ubama’s bona fides were in question? None of which were ever answered.


9 posted on 01/15/2016 6:00:10 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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He was absolutely eligible under the Naturalization Act of 1790. So clearly the Founders intended that someone who was born in a foreign country to a citizen parent was a Natural Born Citizen.

Tribe knows this too. He's just shilling for Hillary.

10 posted on 01/15/2016 6:01:15 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Tagline pending.)
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What’s a “natural born citizen”? The Constitution doesn’t say, but the Framers’ understanding, combined with statutes enacted by the First Congress, indicate that the phrase means both birth abroad to American parents — in a manner regulated by federal law — and birth within the nation’s territory regardless of parental citizenship. The Supreme Court has confirmed that definition on multiple occasions in various contexts.

There’s no ideological debate here: Harvard law professor Laurence Tribe and former solicitor general Ted Olson — who were on opposite sides in Bush v. Gore among other cases — co-authored a memorandum in March 2008 detailing the above legal explanation in the context of John McCain’s eligibility.

Yes, Ted Cruz Can be President

11 posted on 01/15/2016 6:02:06 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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Democrat Libs are determined to get Trump the GOP nomination, which is curious. Perhaps Hillary and Trump have struck a deal on keeping each other’s secrets...a highly prized New York value among NY pols.


14 posted on 01/15/2016 6:05:22 PM PST by txrefugee
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If they can have a Kenyan surely we can have a Cannuck.


19 posted on 01/15/2016 6:09:48 PM PST by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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Hey,Larry....it wasn’t *perjury* perjury,was it!


20 posted on 01/15/2016 6:09:59 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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Enlightened1, I think where I have known your type is from, The ROY MASTERS cult?
Good luck with eternity.


21 posted on 01/15/2016 6:10:47 PM PST by Tigen (I shall raise you one .)
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Let me throw this out to the gang:

Suppose an American contingent of astronauts were rocketed up to the International Space Station for a 16 month mission. Included in the group are a husband and wife team of scientists.

You guessed it - the wife gets pregnant 60 days in and for some temporary reason there are no spacecraft capable of extracting people available for over a year.

The child is born in orbit. Is he/she an American citizen? What if the father is Norwegian and the mother American?

Turning keyboard breathalyzer back on. ;)


28 posted on 01/15/2016 6:17:36 PM PST by SnuffaBolshevik ("Girls like to marry a military man - he already knows how to take orders.")
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I'm not defending Tribe, but I don't think the argument is that those born to ambassadors or military wouldn't be citizens, the argument is about meeting the "natural born citizen" requirement or if deriving citizenship through their parents makes them naturalized citizens by meeting the law, not being born on the soil.
43 posted on 01/15/2016 6:26:34 PM PST by Kenny (RED)
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But the kind of judge Cruz says he admires and would appoint to the Supreme Court is an "originalist," one who claims to be bound by the narrowly historical meaning of the Constitution's terms at the time of their adoption. To his kind of judge, Cruz ironically wouldn't be eligible, because the legal principles that prevailed in the 1780s and '90s required that someone actually be born on US soil to be a "natural born" citizen. Even having two US parents wouldn't suffice. And having just an American mother, as Cruz did, would have been insufficient at a time that made patrilineal descent decisive.

S'cuse me, but all of the above is bovine excrement!

63 posted on 01/15/2016 6:44:22 PM PST by Cold Heat
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Citizenship of both parents should be an overriding principle to birthplace.

Who the hell cares let alone remembers where they were born?
Maybe we are somewhat biased towards where we grew up, but born???

Our loyalties are based on life long experience and influence.. not a place where nobody remembers.

Parents determine where a child’s loyalties lie... not a place of birth.

Every time Obama was challenged on this issue, it was always about where he was born and not about his parents. It was a diversion then and it’s a diversion now.


77 posted on 01/15/2016 7:06:15 PM PST by Safrguns
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Tribe is of the school of Constitutional Law which has wreaked havoc on the American Culture. It put the will of the judge and pop culture as the basis for decision making.

Cruz, on the other hand, is inclined to the originalist or original meaning school.

Americans are convinced that only those two schools are possible approaches to Constirutional questions.

However, the more traditional and more judicious approach is to be found in the intent of the drafters as modified under the umbrella of the Natural Law, which is the underlying basis of the drafting of the Constitution. Such an approach would allow for the internet to be protected by the First Amendment. It would not see gay marriage as a right. It would most likely have done away with slavery, but not approved of affirmative action which would have been seen as unjust to innocent people of later generations.

The natural law always raises it head if the face of injustice. It was the basis on which the Nurenberg trials were held.

We ignore it at our own harm.


88 posted on 01/15/2016 7:26:23 PM PST by amihow (l)
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The MSM is suddenly bed wetting over the proposition of Cruz being the nominee. We appear to be on target.


90 posted on 01/15/2016 7:32:16 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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