Posted on 01/15/2016 5:53:58 PM PST by Enlightened1
“No matter what Trump spouts, Cruz cannot get a declaratory judgment.”
Actually he can and Trump is right... look it up.
My understanding is that Declaratory Judgments move pretty fast. Lawsuits don’t. Cruz has missed his chance now that lawsuits have been filed. They will likely hang over him till the convention or he drops out.
S'cuse me, but all of the above is bovine excrement!
So the only think that proves is : he wasn’t a very good at least not the best lawyer
My dad represented a couple of murders does that make him a murder?
Anecdote: dad clerked in federal system so was aware of federal laws
A month before gore vs bush was settled he placed the exact law and final vote it would be settled o. And gave the paper to local judge. When it was announced he was 100% correct. Very smart
You must be watching WHoraldo.... You cannot petition the court for a judgment on yourself or your opinion.. There has to be a case. With standing.
What court would do that on this question? Your whole argument is a strawman so can tear down Cruz. I have skin in this game your playing, to me it isn’t about Cruz, it’s about my children.
They have t been filed against RNC who has standing. They will be damaged
One of the Texan suits lawyer license is questionable
No Federal judge would grant or would ever grant such a declaratory judgement.
I asked for serious suggestions, not bar talk.
And you give me DRUNK bar talk.
Wikipedia Declaratory Judgment
"A declaratory judgment is typically requested when a party is threatened with a lawsuit but the lawsuit has not yet been filed;"
It's too late now. A lawsuit has been filed.
But the judges always send up to SCOTUS when it is not settled by case history but directly from the constitution. Very few cases fall in that category. So few that it’s hardly covered in law school. That’s why so many lawyers are making uneducated comments
Look at it another way Oklahoma...This is one view of what Natural Born Citizen means. Tribe is an acknowledged Constitutional Authority, whether you agree with him or not on his points is moot. Since Tribe believes there is a question of eligibility, or at least sees how there could be one in the originalist view, then most certainly the democrat party will sue using these arguments.
Look, I am a Trump supporter, but also like Sen Cruz. Personally, I do not think Cruz could carry the general successfully. In my view, I would like to have it determined that he is Natural Born, and not by a talk show host or internet warriors. While he is not (imho) electable this go around, once Trump cleans the cesspool and introduces a work ethic in the general population, then I believe Sen Cruz is primed to take the mantle.
Rubio has problems along this route also because while he is a citizen, is he considered Natural Born?
These questions should not be tossed out due to standing but decided once and for all. BTW I did consider the current occupant ineligible to hold office. I found it ridiculous that every court threw out all suits due to lack of standing. If citizens do not have standing as they are the employer of the President, then I do not know who does have standing.
Your children will be better off with Trump. Cruz isn’t ready to run the nation. And he probably can’t win the general election despite how bad the democrat candidates are. Trump can win easily.
Well stated
The law suit has no standing...
No intervention was required or necessary.
Ted, and almost everyone else is trying to ignore the truth that both parents must be citizens.
“Ted, and almost everyone else is trying to ignore the truth that BOTH parents must be citizens.”
Yep, it is as plain as day in the 1790 wording. It says “citizens” as in mother and father. Not just one.
Citizenship of both parents should be an overriding principle to birthplace.
Who the hell cares let alone remembers where they were born?
Maybe we are somewhat biased towards where we grew up, but born???
Our loyalties are based on life long experience and influence.. not a place where nobody remembers.
Parents determine where a child’s loyalties lie... not a place of birth.
Every time Obama was challenged on this issue, it was always about where he was born and not about his parents. It was a diversion then and it’s a diversion now.
Dozens of lawsuits were filed challenging Ubama’s status.
And none of them were ever resolved to anyone’s satisfaction.
I’m hoping at least one of these will be.
None of them had standing. None will have regarding Cruz.
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