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Should you feel obligated to love obnoxious family members during the holidays?
American Thinker ^ | 25 Dec, 2015 | Ed Straker

Posted on 12/25/2015 7:24:35 AM PST by MtnClimber

...2) Liberal drone. You may have a relative who is a liberal drone, who worships at the altar of Obama, Hillary, global warming, deindustrialization, and whatever else they have been programmed to think. It can be unpleasant to hear them go on and on about how great Obama is and how evil the Republicans are, and you certainly can't speak out because that will start a major battle. If your relative is a hardened leftist, nothing you can say would make any difference as well. So why should you love that?

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To: MtnClimber
go on and on about how great Obama is and how evil the Republicans are, and you certainly can't speak out because that will start a major battle.
No, the major battle started when the Lib spoke out. To not respond is little more than acceptance.
And said response can be a simple reminder of the damage done to America by 50 years of Lib policies.
21 posted on 12/25/2015 7:55:39 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: MtnClimber

Luke 12:51, Matt. 10:35 Ultimately, we all have to choose what side we are on. The division talked about in these passages tells us what will happen if you are a follower of the Lord. If you really love that person, and what we believe in, is the truth, then we must stand for our biblical principles. Nobody said it was always going to be easy.


22 posted on 12/25/2015 7:58:10 AM PST by RABID_JACKAL
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To: MtnClimber

Tolerate = because my wife tells me too.


23 posted on 12/25/2015 7:59:39 AM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: Chode
I couldn't get past a minute...no wonder the kid can't find a job...

Dad should have told his kid, "Shut up with the BS or leave the table, I'm not going to allow you to ruin dinner for everyone" ...

24 posted on 12/25/2015 7:59:57 AM PST by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: MtnClimber

Tolerate = because my wife tells me too.


25 posted on 12/25/2015 8:01:06 AM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: Chode

My mom would have shut that twerp down within 30 seconds, and if it had continued, the little arrogant dweeb would have REALLY humiliated when the old man turned him over his knee in front of the room.

The parents showed too much restraint IMHO.


26 posted on 12/25/2015 8:01:34 AM PST by Don W ( When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: All

My wife and I will have a nice quiet Christmas at home alone with our two dogs. There will be no arguments because non of “those people” are welcome at our house. And the feeling is mutual.

There are others who aren’t welcome for reasons other than political. Mostly messed up users who won’t get psychological help.


27 posted on 12/25/2015 8:10:33 AM PST by VerySadAmerican
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To: MtnClimber

Nope. You might have to put up with them, but you don’t have to love them. And really if you organize your life right you don’t even have to put up with them. I used to hate the holidays, and it was entirely because of my family, who believe no holiday is complete without a screaming argument. Then I stopped holidaying with them, now I love the holidays.


28 posted on 12/25/2015 8:13:30 AM PST by discostu (Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right B, A, Start)
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To: MtnClimber

I just say, “Interesting! What’s your source?”

They never have one.


29 posted on 12/25/2015 8:13:34 AM PST by mrs. a (It's a short life but a merry one...)
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To: MtnClimber

I don’t have any obnoxious family members .... Does that mean *I* am the obnoxious family member?


30 posted on 12/25/2015 8:15:32 AM PST by Mrs_Puddleglum (First God. Then family. Then country.)
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To: BwanaNdege
In this life we have three great lasting qualities - faith, hope and love. But the greatest of them is love.

Love comes in many forms. There were times when Jesus rebuked those who opposed Him. There were times when Jesus was silent toward those who opposed Him. A time came when Jesus died for those who opposed Him.

These is not a single answer in dealing with obnoxious family members. If we're led by the Holy Spirit, we'll, "Know when to hold 'em; Know when to fold 'em; Know when to walk away; Know when to run".

31 posted on 12/25/2015 8:17:32 AM PST by JesusIsLord
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To: Mrs_Puddleglum

Well...I try not to be!


32 posted on 12/25/2015 8:19:34 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: JesusIsLord

“THERE is not a single answer in dealing with obnoxious family members. If we’re led by the Holy Spirit, we’ll, “Know when to hold ‘em; Know when to fold ‘em; Know when to walk away; Know when to run”. ——fixed it.


33 posted on 12/25/2015 8:22:19 AM PST by JesusIsLord
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To: MtnClimber

Every year/holiday, people somehow manage to find excuses for and justify having that one/two/whatever POS relative over and every year, the same thing happens.

Everyone at the gathering sits on pins and needles waiting for the liberal idiot to utterly ruin the event, or dreading the liberal’s tantrum when someone with guts tells them to shut up. And in the rare event they don’t go full liberal and spout the dogma, their PRESENCE still ruined the event.

Folks, this is simple math. Do you want to contune ruining what are supposed to be a time/times of happiness for everyone, just to spare the ‘feelings’ of human garbage or people supporting them? Because thats what it comes down to.

Do you want to attend someone elses’ event knowing that going in, you will have to deal with said garbage or worse, throw your beliefs out the window to keep your mouth shut and your blood pressure high?

As to the issue of children involved...

By allowing their idiot parent to act like the liberal they are, all you do is reinforce to that child that the liberal’s behavior is not only acceptable, but something to be emulated, since they see the person/parent displaying that behavior to run riot and cow everyone into silence or acceptance.

There is never, ever a reason to allow a liberal to ruin a gathering with their presence and the fault of ruined gathering falls not on the liberal. They are what they are, do what they do and we all know it. BECAUSE we all know it, responsibility falls squarely on the person too cowardly to stand for his beliefs and say “Nope, you’re not wanted”.

If people would do that instead of make excuses, some liberals might eventually see that they are the problem and there would be less of them as a result.


34 posted on 12/25/2015 8:23:41 AM PST by Norm Lenhart (Existential Cage Theory - An idea whose time has come)
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To: Chode

THAT was HILARIOUS!!


35 posted on 12/25/2015 8:27:14 AM PST by RandallFlagg ("Political correctness is tyranny with manners." -Charlton Heston)
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To: MtnClimber
should you feel guilty for disliking them?

Liking or love is an emotion. An emotion is a consequence of a value-judgment. If someone is rationally judged to be a value to you, then you will value him or her and like him or her. Love is a more intense form or like. And the opposite for people who are disvalues.

36 posted on 12/25/2015 8:27:17 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Popman

If my son ever did that he wouldn’t be able to walk away from the table. I would have given him the beating of his life.


37 posted on 12/25/2015 8:34:53 AM PST by peeps36 (Save The Tortoise And Kill The People)
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To: MtnClimber
Our family get-togethers always were congenial and comforting. Like wearing an old pair of jeans. Not the best trousers in town but they fit well and were very comfortable. With my parents both deceased and the three siblings living in different parts of the country, we don't get together anymore at the holidays. But we still stay in touch and don't fight with each other.

The keys to having pleasing family get-togethers in our family were:

1. No politics. My folks had an unwritten understanding that politics were not to be debated at Christmas or Thanksgiving. Not the appropriate social setting for it.

2. No alcohol or drugs. My parents didn't imbibe so my brother and sister and I never took up the habit. They weren't prudes. Just couldn't afford to spend their hard-earning money on booze. Our middle son was on drugs for several years and was not allowed to show up if he was stoned. He has since quit but he learned he would be escorted out the door if he showed of high.

3. No liberals. My parents were Democrats but back in the day when democrats were much more conservative than the far-left, radical zoo they are today. My parents would be conservatives if they were still alive. My brother and sister and I are all conservatives. One of my nephews is gay but politically, he is a conservative. No guests or friends were allowed who were liberals. Provided for nicer, more pleasant get-togethers.

4. Luck. Being born into a functional family with loving parents and sane siblings is not always the case, but for me and my family, we got very lucky. We always had good times and got along great during holiday dinners.

Merry Christmas everyone!

38 posted on 12/25/2015 8:34:54 AM PST by HotHunt
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To: MtnClimber

Remember - one of the concurrent themes in the next civil war will be The Settling of Accounts.


39 posted on 12/25/2015 8:35:05 AM PST by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: Noumenon

What do you mean by “Settling of Accounts”?


40 posted on 12/25/2015 8:36:14 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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