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Putin told gathered media: 'The American side, which leads the coalition that Turkey belongs to, knew about the location and time of our planes' flights, and we were hit exactly there and at that time.
1 posted on 11/26/2015 6:22:58 PM PST by Fred Nerks
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To: Fred Nerks; null and void

But that could mean an undocumented usurper might be trying to cause war and chaos on the planet. We can’t allude to that; it would have to be a nut-job conspiracy!


2 posted on 11/26/2015 6:24:30 PM PST by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: Fred Nerks

Add in Marco Rubio wanting to “defend Turkey” against Russia, in light of this incident.....


3 posted on 11/26/2015 6:25:23 PM PST by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: Candor7; SunkenCiv
TURKEY ACCUSES RUSSIA OF 'SLANDER' OVER OIL CLAIMS Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan pictured has described Russian claims that Turkey is buying oil from ISIS as slander Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan (pictured) has described Russian claims that Turkey is buying oil from ISIS as slander Erdogan has accused Moscow of slander for claiming his country buys oil from ISIS as the fallout between the two nations over the downed fighter jet continues to escalate. Turkey refused to apologise for the jet's destruction, though conceded in the face of harsh Russian retaliatory measures it may have acted 'differently' had it known the plane was Russian. In the aftermath of the incident, Russia accused Turkey of paying ISIS fighters in order to buy oil. But Erdogan lashed out at the claims, calling them slanderous. Speaking in Ankara he said They claim Turkey is buying oil from Daesh, using another name for ISIS. Shame on you. Those who claim we buy oil from Daesh are obliged to prove it. If not, you are a slanderer. He told France 24 They are lies, they are slander. We have never, never had this kind of commercial relationship with any terror organisation. They have to prove it, and if they can, Tayyip Erdogan will leave office. .
4 posted on 11/26/2015 6:30:38 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Obama the Undocumented First MSM-enabled
sociopath pRes_ _ent has one goal.
To wit: World War 3 with destruction of America
and its allies, and the emergence of Islam.

Unfortunately, Obama is protected by the EXEMPT GOP
which also hates the American People with a vengeance.


5 posted on 11/26/2015 6:30:57 PM PST by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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I'm glad Russia is installing S-400 anti-aircraft systems.

ISIS has a very dangerous air-force, and this should bring them to heel... </Richter scale irony/sarcasm/something>

8 posted on 11/26/2015 6:33:18 PM PST by null and void (We are AmeriCANs. We CAN learn, and learn from history, if we choose.)
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To: Fred Nerks

i dont doubt it.

obama stands with his muslim brothers.

he is a god damned traitor. a domestic internal enemy.


12 posted on 11/26/2015 6:38:07 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Of course. The Turks don’t have radars or any indigenous intelligence capability.


15 posted on 11/26/2015 6:39:46 PM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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this was either leaked or it does not control what its allies are doing

I'd say both!

Hussein or his artificial brain knew what would happen. I don't think he told turkslammie what to do. He knew what they would do.

16 posted on 11/26/2015 6:41:05 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: Fred Nerks

Some of us have suspected that Obamalini had a hand in this, and that it was an ambush. Now the question is whether the O administration gave the Turks the information for the purpose of harassing the Russians, or whether they (stupidly) thought that the information would be used by Turkey to avoid conflict.


18 posted on 11/26/2015 6:43:46 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Fred Nerks

Or maybe they’ve been having a habit of overflying that chunk and Turkey was prepared to give them a serious message. Putin is an ass. And a liar. of course so’s Erdogan. If it’s a mid-east situation it’s almost always all bad guys.


25 posted on 11/26/2015 6:50:16 PM PST by discostu (Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right B, A, Start)
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To: Fred Nerks

Or Russia sacrificed their own plane in a false flag operation in an effort to badger/ screw with Turkey


26 posted on 11/26/2015 6:51:30 PM PST by Personal Responsibility (Trump/Cruz 2016)
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That S400 is a whole new level of crazy. It goes right up to the limit of the ABM treaty. It’s nothing like the Vietnam era SA-2 threat.
Over the horizon 250 mile range. Targets to an altitude of 186 MILES. Anti regional missile capability.
up to about 114,000 feet can maneuver at 20 G’s. Mach 6.2 speed. Does not need ground radar, once it’s launched, it’s game on. Sure hope we stay out of this mess.

We better be working on some serious ECM.

Interesting to watch in one specific dispassionate way. The Russians are the masters at SAM warfare and never real good at power projection. The result of needing mostly to protect a giant landmass.
We are the unquestioned naval power, and good at projecting power.

Opposite needs created different tools.


28 posted on 11/26/2015 6:53:47 PM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: Fred Nerks

Do not look at the fireball and get away from windows.


29 posted on 11/26/2015 6:56:00 PM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied, Otto Von Bismarck)
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To: Fred Nerks

Believe it or not folks we are in a hot proxy war with Russia and China and its just a matter of time before it goes full bore face to face.

The powder keg has meet the spark.


38 posted on 11/26/2015 7:19:42 PM PST by American Constitutionalist ( because the Constitution matters.)
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ping


39 posted on 11/26/2015 7:23:00 PM PST by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: Fred Nerks

As I and others have stated it was an ambush. No way could Turkey have acted that fast with only 17 seconds of airspace violations.


50 posted on 11/26/2015 7:38:19 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Fred Nerks

Seal Team Six redux?


55 posted on 11/26/2015 7:51:29 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: Fred Nerks

So that is what Putin was talking about when he said he was stabbed in the back...he was meaning obuma...

I just hope Putin waits until we get these elections done before he tries to take out obuma.....we want a Country left....


57 posted on 11/26/2015 7:55:23 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (I have such happy days, I hope you do too!!!)
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To: Fred Nerks; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Putin’s a lying douche. That’s nothing new. Thanks Fred.


64 posted on 11/26/2015 8:43:40 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Fred Nerks

I think on this Thanksgiving day we should all be grateful for turkey... but not Turkey..


68 posted on 11/26/2015 9:43:32 PM PST by freespirit2012
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