[conservativejoy]

The cloture vote was going to happen with or without Cruz. They cut off voting once the 60 vote threshold has been reached. It is ridiculous to say that a bill that passed with 67 votes with Crus voting “No” was not going to meet the cloture vote without Cruz.

[JoSixChip]

The cloture vote was going to happen with or without Cruz. They cut off voting once the 60 vote threshold has been reached. It is ridiculous to say that a bill that passed with 67 votes with Crus voting “No” was not going to meet the cloture vote without Cruz.

I assume you believe Cruz is a leader. How many followed his lead, active lobbying and vote for TPA. How many would have followed his lead if he had voted against it? If you don't believe Cruz is a leader, then what are we talking about here?

[DesertRhino]

“The cloture vote was going to happen with or without Cruz.”

Bullshine. How does THAT justify him voting with Obama? He should have voted against it. Better yet, he shouldn’t have written the bill. And as a writer, if HE stood against it passionately, maybe it could have tipped the scale as he dragged a few others with him.

The fact that it might have passed anyway doesn’t mean he gets a pass for voting for it. He stabbed us in the back on that one for his banker friends.