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Some Historical "Revision" questions to ponder.
19 Nov 2015 | US Navy Vet

Posted on 11/19/2015 9:26:06 AM PST by US Navy Vet

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1. What would have happened if Hitler had listened to his Generals and authorized a withdraw; from Stalingrad in 1941-1842? 2. What would have happened if Kennedy had not gone to Dallas in 1963? 3. What would have happened if Lincoln had not gone to Ford's Theatre in 1865? 4. What would have happened if President Reagan would have replaced George HW Bush as his VP with a Conservative in 1984?

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1 posted on 11/19/2015 9:26:06 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: US Navy Vet

1942


2 posted on 11/19/2015 9:26:33 AM PST by US Navy Vet (I could Be a "Chump" for Trump, but right now I am still on "Cruz-Control"!)
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What would have happened if Kennedy had not gone to Dallas in 1963?

IMO, Kennedy would have been blamed for Vietnam instead of Johnson. Opinions of Kennedy would be different.


3 posted on 11/19/2015 9:29:32 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: US Navy Vet

They wouldn’t have bombed Pearl Harbor and we might not have gone to war....


4 posted on 11/19/2015 9:32:10 AM PST by Vendome (they arDon't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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Stalingrad? Doesn’t matter. War was on, and headed towards ultimate conclusion. Hitler merely would have had some extra soldiers to put into the meat grinders later on


5 posted on 11/19/2015 9:33:19 AM PST by PGR88
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To: US Navy Vet

Even better thought experiment: what if Hitler hadn’t attacked Russia, at all, and had instead saved that energy for attacking Great Britain.

Withdrawing from Stalingrad wouldn’t have changed much. The soldiers that died at Stalingrad would have died on the march home. The Russians would still have pounded Germany from the East and the Allies would have pounded them from the west. The timing is all that would have changed.


6 posted on 11/19/2015 9:34:26 AM PST by Purdue77 ("I would make the perfect benevolent dictator. Vote for me.")
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1. What would have happened if Hitler had listened to his Generals and authorized a withdraw; from Stalingrad in 1941-1942?

The war would probably have ended in 1945 anyway, but the battle for France in 1944 would have been much bloodier.

2. What would have happened if Kennedy had not gone to Dallas in 1963?

JFK would have defeated whoever the GOP nominee would have been. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 would have been passed, but the Great Society would have occurred more incrementally.

3. What would have happened if Lincoln had not gone to Ford's Theatre in 1865?

He would have been assassinated somewhere else, or he would have died of natural causes a la FDR; he was already showing the effects of being CinC during the war.

4. What would have happened if President Reagan would have replaced George HW Bush as his VP with a Conservative in 1984?

Impossible to tell without knowing whom it would be; there were very few true conservatives who would have had a power base of his/her own at the time. To have any effect, it would have to have been someone who came up through the ranks, not one of the rich-family mandarins, and in 1984 there weren't many such people.

7 posted on 11/19/2015 9:37:06 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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As to your question #1, I don't think it would have made much difference, one way or the other. By late 1942, many German generals on the Eastern Front had privately realized that they were in a war of attrition with the Soviets, and that was a war Germany could not win.

So here's my question instead: Suppose that in the fall of 1941 Hitler had chosen to drive straight for Moscow, instead of just advancing in that direction, and then later turning south?

Stalin had refused to leave the capital, so the Germans might have bagged Uncle Joe himself.

8 posted on 11/19/2015 9:37:19 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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What would have happened if a slumdog millionaire socialist brat from the streets of Indonesia had not stolen the identity of an obscure baby allegedly born in Hawaii back in 1961?

My answer: The democrat fraud machine would have elected a different America-hating communist in 2008 and 2012. After the foolishness of the past 50 years, we were due for this mistake, and removing one corrupt thug would have made no difference.

As for if Hitler had allowed the withdrawal from Stalingrad, he would have again been overly impressed with his brilliance and invincibility and would have ordered other, equally stupid, military decisions.

If JFK had skipped Dallas? The sniper would have found another book depository, grassy knoll, or other hide. The FBI and Secret Service didn’t know he was gunning for JFK; he would have found the shot another time.

If Lincoln had skipped Ford’s Theater? Again, Booth, or another person who hated him for being too tough on the South or not tough enough, would have shot him somewhere else.

It’s hard to stop dedicated individuals or large social trends by changing a single event.


9 posted on 11/19/2015 9:37:43 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Vendome

The JAPS bombed Pearl Harbor, not the Germans.


10 posted on 11/19/2015 9:38:38 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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“what if Hitler hadn’t attacked Russia, at all, and had instead saved that energy for attacking Great Britain”

Wouldn’t matter if he couldn’t muster a ground invasion against Britain, and he couldn’t do that without defeating the British navy, which he failed to do.


11 posted on 11/19/2015 9:41:07 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: US Navy Vet

What if Hitler was assinated?
What if Hannibal attacked Rome?
What if Sparticus had of escaped?


12 posted on 11/19/2015 9:43:05 AM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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"What would have happened if Kennedy had not gone to Dallas in 1963?"

LBJ would have just got him someplace else.

13 posted on 11/19/2015 9:45:26 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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Huh?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI


14 posted on 11/19/2015 9:46:22 AM PST by Vendome (they arDon't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: fella

That was my thought as I read this.


15 posted on 11/19/2015 9:46:32 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Mollypitcher1
The "Germans bombing Pearl Harbor" reference is actually quite common. This one-minute clip will explain it:

Germans Bomb Pearl Harbor

16 posted on 11/19/2015 9:49:37 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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Not going into Russia would have provided Germany with time and resources to confront the Royal Navy and finish the RAF. After that, Germany would have had 100K extra men to throw at GB. Meanwhile, the V2 would have been perfected and pounded GB. The RAF would not have been able to penetrate to Germany to attack the war factories US entry into the war could have been stalled by the extra attention on GB. (By the way, this is all speculation.100K


17 posted on 11/19/2015 9:49:54 AM PST by Purdue77 ("I would make the perfect benevolent dictator. Vote for me.")
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To: chajin

Forgot one,what would have happened if the United States had not bailed Out Russia with material from the lend lease program?


18 posted on 11/19/2015 9:50:03 AM PST by ballplayer (hvexx NKK c bmytit II iyijjhihhiyyiyiyi it iyiiy II i hi jiihi ty yhiiyihiijhijjyjiyjiiijyuiiijihyii)
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I have a better one for you:

What if the Italian mob had taken out the entire Kennedy family in the 1930's, and smuggled whiskey from Canada themselves?

19 posted on 11/19/2015 9:51:12 AM PST by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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What if the Central Powers won WWI? No Hitler, No Holocaust.


20 posted on 11/19/2015 9:52:17 AM PST by dfwgator
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