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To: ctdonath2

I think Carson would sign off on whatever war plans are presented before him.

My concern with Trump is that his worldview generally excludes God. He’s a modern day Nebuchadnezzar, successful, powerful, but self-sufficient.

I don’t think his view has the completeness that a religious upbringing should bring.


7 posted on 11/08/2015 11:27:49 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30

You can’t read Trump or Carson heart. Best to leave those type of judgments to God. God has used to righteous and the less willing to do His will.


24 posted on 11/08/2015 11:45:15 AM PST by nclaurel
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To: Jonty30
My concern with Trump is that his worldview generally excludes God.

This is very important but not enough see it (or care). Trump is his own god, in a way, or money is his god, etc. This country is in way too big of a mess to think that Trump could do anything about it without God.
26 posted on 11/08/2015 11:45:51 AM PST by mlizzy (America needs no words from me to see how your decision in Roe/Wade has deformed a great nation. -MT)
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To: Jonty30

I consider him our modern day King Saul myself, although Nebuchadnezzar I suppose works as well.

I’ll say over and over again I’m not supporting Carson. That ship has sailed, or should have sailed for anyone looking for a conservative candidate, and one who wouldn’t be hopelessly in over his head.

But that still doesn’t negate the fact that Carson DOES have a point here. Trump, who supposedly is thrashing the media senseless, sure is quick to jump on their narrative when it potentially benefits him.

I see and sense in Trump what ultimately did in Saul- impatience and impetuousness. I’m not saying Trump would nuke someone who made him upset. But I can see his temper and those qualities I mentioned getting him, and us, in trouble somewhere along the way.

I asked this yesterday. There are people who follow Trump on Twitter. I don’t even HAVE or bother with a Twitter account. While Hillary is out there talking about a $12 minimum wage, potentially higher, or encouraging higher in individual communities, did Trump find the time to tweet out something about that? Or was his criticism reserved for Ben, Jeb, and probably Rubio?


27 posted on 11/08/2015 11:48:17 AM PST by American Faith Today
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To: Jonty30
Where do you come up with this stuff?

Trump is the one who's saying ISIS is pure evil, medieval in their behavior. He's saying that all civilized nations have to work together to destroy them. What's more religious than describing the need to destroy ISIS as good vs evil? Who else is putting it in moral instead of political terms?

38 posted on 11/08/2015 11:58:44 AM PST by grania
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To: Jonty30

Regarding religion, you don’t need to go to church to be a follower of Christ aka a Christian. My grandfather always said there are more sinners in church on Sunday then not. Of course we are all sinners at our core. Yet grandpa wasn’t saying those staying home weren’t sinners as I confusingly thought as a child. No, my grandpa was saying that just because you go to church doesn’t make you a good Christian person any more then not going to church makes you a bad person or someone who doesn’t follow Christ. Looking at Trump I see someone who was raised a Christian, though not a evangelizing one. I see Trump as a fighter, a warrior and warriors know when to fight and when to negotiate; as well as to when to be humorous and self effacing. Yes, self effacing which with Trumps’ bold personality can be difficult know when he doing so. If I vote for him over Cruz, it is because Cruz was born in Canada and Trump was born in the USA.

self effacing: not claiming attention for oneself; retiring and modest. “His demeanor was self-effacing, gracious, and polite.” (In spite of his being bold and charismatic.)


71 posted on 11/08/2015 12:37:55 PM PST by This I Wonder32460 (Ideas have consequences.)
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To: Jonty30

No, he isn’t a modern day Nebuchadnezzar, he’s more like a modern-day Cyrus.


83 posted on 11/08/2015 12:56:10 PM PST by Catsrus ( I callz 'em as I seez 'em.)
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To: Jonty30

Trump and God.

Look, nobody knows but the person and God. I don’t care about Trump being pious, I just want him to run the country in a way that’s loving and beneficial to all the citizens. I call that Godly.

He doesn’t have to preach.


116 posted on 11/08/2015 2:05:03 PM PST by altura (Cruz for our country)
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