Posted on 10/26/2015 7:03:48 AM PDT by conservativejoy
Sunday on NBCs Meet the Press, host Chuck Todd pressed Republican presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson on his plan to use the Department of Education to police universities and colleges political speech and deny funding in cases of extreme political bias.
Carson said, This is not just spouting off, Ive thought about this. The way that works is you invite students at the universities to send in their complaints, and then you investigate.
Todd asked, How is what youre advocating not a violation of the First Amendment?
Carson countered, Its not a violation of the First Amendment. All Im saying is tax payer funding should net be used for propaganda.
Todd said, Your definition of propaganda could be what somebody else views as free speech.
Carson answered, Well thats why I said, were going to have the students send in, and we will investigate.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
White guilt and demands for racial reparations have cost this nation eight years of horror. We don't need any more, especially from a Republican candidate.
Carson is done, or soon will be.
Ok...
Don’t think you win this in the court of public opinion. That is my point.
Even I have a problem with overt policing of speech by the government. It looks and sounds like censorship, but from our side.
No thanks.
And Israel and capitalism and profit and 2nd amendment and abortion and BLM; what other constitutional rights do the colleges violate?
“And this position against the free college for everyone Bernie/Hillary platform?”
What’s right isn’t always popular, and what’s popular isn’t always right.
[If this doesnt raise any alarms for you about Carson, I dont know what will.]
CARSON has made conflicting statements regarding abortion issues as well as disturbing views on medical treatment for the elderly. He needs to clarify his positions and why the change. Could it be his original sentiments are affecting his candidacy?
BEN CARSON - ON MEDICAL CARE FOR THE ELDERLY
(Hes for a panel to decide which seniors deserve life saving treatment/end of life care, and which ones dont)
[[Our mind-set is to automatically pull out all medical stopseven if that means literally torturing loved ones during their last few months of life. What if rather than always putting terminally ill patients in intensive care unitswhere we poke, prod, test, and operate ad nauseumwe allowed most people the dignity of dying in relative peace and comfort, at home, surrounded by loved ones, with hospice care or some other medical attendant if necessary? Agreement on who should be treated and who should not be treated would require an extensive national discussion that could hopefully result in some helpful basic guidelines. Obviously any such guidelines should allow for flexibility and choice. And decisions should be based not merely on age but on the viability of the patient. (From his 1999 book, The Big Picture.)]]
BEN CARSON - ON SOCIAL ISSUES
Carson has expressed support for same-sex civil unions, and following the Supreme Courts ruling legalizing gay marriage in all 50 states, he conceded the fight was over by declaring the ruling the law of the land. (Newsmax)
Despite maintaining a strong pro-life record, in a 1992 interview, Dr. Carson said that while he does not perform abortions, he personally referred women seeking abortions to other doctors. In the same interview, he said that he would never advocate its illegal for a person to get an abortion. (Baltimore Sun)
Dr. Carson co-authored a medical research paper in 1992 where he outlined his support for the use of aborted baby organs for research purposes. Carson defended his past statements, saying, To not use the tissue that is in a tissue bank, regardless of where it comes from, would be foolish. Why would anybody not do that?
Numerous conservatives have expressed that by providing the demand that abortion providers will supply the market and that participating in this practice is being complicit. (Life Site News)
As revelations came to light about Dr. Carson referring the mothers of unborn children with potential birth defects to abortionists, his campaign defended the practice. A campaign spokesman said, he [Carson] believes in quality medical care, No. 1, and secondly, he believes in people making their own decisions based on facts and information. Pressed on whether Carson stands by his decision to do so, the same spokesman said yes. The statement is particularly troubling given that pro-abortion proponents use similar language regarding a decision between the patient and their doctor, but not mentioning the life of the child. (Politico)
Since news surfaced of a 1992 research paper co-authored by Dr. Carson that included the use of fetal tissue, Carons stance on abortion has come under immense scrutiny and his defense of his previous medical decisions has been troubling to many in the pro-life movement. When asked if Carson stands by his past decision to refer patients to abortion doctors, Carsons Communications Director said He believes in quality medical care, No. 1, and secondly, he believes in people making their own decisions based on facts and information.Additionally, the spokesman went on to say that Carson believes that you cant stop abortion by making it illegal. The spokesman told Politico, he [Carson] has always believed that the battle over abortion had to be waged in the hearts and minds of Americans, that you cannot legislate morality. But he also believes were winning the debate. (Politico)
In the 1990s, Carson was a board member of the Baltimore Charitable Foundation which gave $200,000 in grants to Planned Parenthood. When confronted with this fact, and asked if Carson knew about the grants a spokesman said, it doesnt really matter. (Politico)
When asked if he would support abortion in the case of incest or rape, Dr. Carson said, I would hope that they would very quickly avail themselves of the emergency room, and in the emergency room, they have the ability to administer RU-486 and other possibilities before you have a developing fetus. RU-486 is an abortifacient that kills a fertilized egg by artificially denying it the ability to attach to the uterine wall. Using Dr. Carsons own standard of life beginning at conception, this would then constitute murder. (Politico)
During the campaign Dr. Carson has struggled to define when he believes life begins. He told ABC News that life begins when the heart starts beating but later clarified that he meant conception. (Politico)
- See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/2016-presidential-candidates/candidates/ben-carson#article-11
And winning this election is critical. The GOPe is being vanquished. Not the time to get silly and screw it all up.
they need to be called on it. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander..,
Spot on comments. Hope you are right that he soon will fade. I think so too. When the word gets around that he wants to abolish Medicare and Social Security, that should pretty well end his support among seniors.
Appreciate your arsenal of cut and paste ready info, but I have seen it at least 100 times already.
That said, the disconnect between what Ben says and what is out there in his record is reason to take a closer look.
He is a nice guy, a smart man, and an accomplished doctor... but he is clearly not ready for the White House. If universities want to be extremely biased, what business is that of FedGov? Ithaca and Berkeley and plenty of others have been extremely biased for decades. We have survived, somehow. Personally, I prefer Freedom to be promoted over “balance”. Let them be stupid if they want to be. We are adult enough to figure it out.
Carson would have been better off describing it as applying Civil Rights principles to speech and ideology through an EEOC-like entity designed to ensure that speech and ideology are just as protected on the campuses of colleges that receive Federal $$$ as other protected rights.
It’s long past time we coopted the Left’s language and methodologies, particularly here. There’s no reason, given the Supreme Court’s recent disparate impact ruling that Conservatives should be identified as a “protected class” and treated as such on college campuses.
Universities are the the worst violators of free speech, with their own PC laws, speech codes, fake microgressions, etc. How does Carson not get this?
You can’t defeat evil if you live in fear... Trump’s the example... you go bold not timid to win.
No surprise, the usual suspects put their desperate need to find some excuse to attack other candidates over any sense of reason.
Really this stupid? Really believe that we are just suppose to write blanks checks, not expect the Universities to follow any sorts of standards on how that money is spent?
If they find the burden of intellectual honesty so onerous, they can not take the money.
Free Speech does not entitle them to a government funded podium from which to spread their views.
On that I agree. Trump is the example of how to do it.
Carson is pandering to the Christian right. That will be his undoing. He may win Iowa, but he will also alienate the rest of the electorate in the process.
[I have seen it at least 100 times already.]
You may have seen it, but others may not have seen it.
That said, I’ll try to come up with a ‘fresh approach.’
BEN CARSON needs to be vetted by conservatives. His practice of surgically removing long held liberal views and replacing them with what well may be artificial conservative views for purposes of winning the election is disturbing.
Not any reason, just when your candidate makes stupid proposals like this one.
Call me stupid, but I abhor the idea of government sponsored censorship of any political stripe.
You can win on the ideas without having to control the speech. The reason they try to control the speech is because they can’t win on the ideas.
Trump knows this. That is why I support him.
Agreed.
The Dept. of Education needs to be abolished. What he is proposing is Big Brother at its sinister best.
I like how he is also proposing to increase spending, because there is no way they would cut from somewhere else in the department to fund their thought control.
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