You finally said something that has some truth! I can partially agree with you here, except Steve Jobs did greatly contribute to the computer industry with some ground-breaking designs.
What he did with these designs, everyone else copied. On the 1984 Mac, first use of 3-1/2 inch floppy drives. All the other microcomputers used 5-1/4 inch floppy discs that were prone to contamination and demagnetization. The original Apple II with a motherboard containing enough hardware to boot a working machine, while having a bank of slots to add 3rd-party boards; most other machines used S-100 architecture and needed other components added to be used. Apple machines were designed to be taken apart with just a single screw and tabs (Mac II series comes to mind); other PCs had sharp rectangular sheet metal with sharp edges and lots of screws. Other PCs soon copied the color schemes of Apple machines; most PCs until then were drab gray. Apples were first with adoption of new interface ports, or dropping of antiquated ports. There were howls of derision against Apple for being first in dropping the 5-1/4 floppy, 3-1/2 floppy, CD-ROMs, DVD-ROMs, as well as interface ports in favor of newer tech which was shortly adopted by all. Then there's the quest of smaller, sleeker, lighter designs which everyone else is copying. No contributions? Hah!
I personally have little respect for "style" over "substance." Steve Jobs was mostly about style, and not so much about substance. Suggesting he was the "Fashion designer" of the computer industry is not intended to be seen as a compliment.
What he did with these designs, everyone else copied. On the 1984 Mac, first use of 3-1/2 inch floppy drives
Appears to have been invented by Sony, and first used on their Sony SMC-70 computer in 1982. Later adopted by Apple.
The original Apple II with a motherboard containing enough hardware to boot a working machine, while having a bank of slots to add 3rd-party boards; most other machines used S-100 architecture and needed other components added to be used.
Yes, the Woz made a great little machine. Steve Jobs supplied the pretty logo, and probably the price.
Then there's the quest of smaller, sleeker, lighter designs which everyone else is copying. No contributions? Hah!
Which came available as the manufacturing capabilities for some of the more exotic stuff (LCD Screens, touch screens, etc.) came available. Again, Jobs didn't build any of it. He simply screamed at his Engineers to implement it as this stuff came available.
But let's put all this aside. I can conclude from what you have written so far that you are a long term computer fan just as am I, so I don't really see where we are doing any good for ourselves or anyone else to keep this animosity going.
I am not impressed much by Steve Jobs. From what I have read of him so far, he does not strike me as deserving the credit he gets, but I have a lot of respect for Steve Wozniak, and I admire the work he has done and the good engineering of the products subsequently produced by his company.
Apple makes good products. That I will not dispute. However, I don't like Steve Jobs, I don't like Tim Cook, and I don't wish the company well. I think the company is now pushing political ideology which is destructive to the nation, and I hope they either reform, or go bust.
Now lest you think i'm being unfair, I hate Microsoft too. Sometimes a lot more than Apple. If you think i'm hard on Steve Jobs, you should hear what I have to say about Bill Gates.
Scum, the whole lot of em.
Anyways, I'm not going to post any more snark at you or Swordmaker. I don't think our acting childish is doing any of us any good. We are all computer fans here. Let us just agree that this stuff is amazing and we can all look forward to even more amazing capabilities to come.