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To: roadcat
Akin to saying NASA didn't invent sending a man to the Moon because the Chinese were sending little rockets into the night sky hundreds of years ago.

It is a testament to your degree of disconnect with what is really important in the world, for you to compare what Jobs did with "sending a man to the moon."

In proper context, what Steve Jobs did would be more akin to painting "NASA" on the side of the rocket. Yup, he did a pretty good Job, but let's get real. The Actual nuts and bolts work was done by other people. (They are called Engineers.)

Thomas Edison did not create digital movies.

No, he did the real creative bit. Thinking of the concept of "movies" and then building it in hardware. That it would eventually be represented by digital technology was as predictable as the night following the day. While we're at it, Steve Jobs didn't create digital movies either. Technology produced by a lot of other people who were not him, did that. Steve just happened to be the head of a company when the technology matured enough to be used.

A couple of my daughters worked in the magazine business, most of their publishing was done with Apple Macs. Gutenberg didn't create them.

Neither did Jobs. Engineers who worked for him did.

As Swordmaker explained, Xerox did not create the GUI architecture that Apple created.

Which means they thought of the idea, and built it in hardware. Jobs comes along and says "Wow! That's neat! I'm going to brow beat my engineers into building one of these, only it's going to be extra-spectacular-super-duper better!

"Now where did I put my whips and chains?"

39 posted on 10/08/2015 1:19:48 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
No, he did the real creative bit. Thinking of the concept of "movies" and then building it in hardware. That it would eventually be represented by digital technology was as predictable as the night following the day. While we're at it, Steve Jobs didn't create digital movies either. Technology produced by a lot of other people who were not him, did that. Steve just happened to be the head of a company when the technology matured enough to be used.

No, Edison did not think of the concept of "movies". . . they existed before Edison invented his camera and projector system. There were, in fact, many movie systems before Edison's on the market. His was the most efficient. The French were there first. He also was not first with the electric light or even the light bulb. However, Edison did indeed invent recording sound. He appears to have thought of it and invented a machine to record it and play it back. . . although even that is in dispute that an engineer in his laboratory may have been the actual inventor. One thing is certain, though, and that is that Edison invented the modern industrial laboratory system.

Apple did work with Kodak to produce the first consumer affordable digital cameras.

Neither did Jobs. Engineers who worked for him did.

Whom, Steve, like Edison, directed on what to do, and how he wanted it done. Which means they thought of the idea, and built it in hardware. Jobs comes along and says "Wow! That's neat! I'm going to brow beat my engineers into building one of these, only it's going to be extra-spectacular-super-duper better!

"Now where did I put my whips and chains?"

Even the engineers who worked with Steve say he was often the one who came up with the ideas. Edison often came under the exact same accusations as YOU are making. . . even to the whips and chains. . . and was also defended by the people who worked with him.

42 posted on 10/08/2015 6:07:17 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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