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1 posted on 10/05/2015 10:36:03 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE
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In AmeriKa you have no property rights...but keep taking it anyway...


2 posted on 10/05/2015 10:40:34 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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It is not sufficient that he simply comply. He must also like it and declare so!


3 posted on 10/05/2015 10:41:15 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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And here was a guy trying to be green, and the lefties came after him for it, with a vengeful vendetta even after the windmills were gone.

What huge hypocrites.

If it is an unsightliness issue, then he could build cellar doors or storage cubicles on the pads.


4 posted on 10/05/2015 10:43:25 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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You don't piss in the wind and you don't pull on Superman's Cape Government's tail.
6 posted on 10/05/2015 10:47:09 AM PDT by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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Apparently this all came about because Nygard's neighbors filed a lawsuit against him to remove the turbine.

I'm having difficulty understanding why the neighbors would care about a wind turbine. Is it noisy? An eyesore to the neighborhood?

Do the neighbors have a legitimate gripe or are they just your typical busybody neighbors from hell?

Here's a picture of the Nygard house with said turbine (look in upper right of picture). To me, it just looks like an oversized bird feeder. Nothing to be getting your panties in a twist over.


9 posted on 10/05/2015 10:54:44 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (A businessman gets things donee with own money. A politician takes money and gets nothing done.)
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More info here:
http://www.kare11.com/story/news/local/2015/02/19/wind-turbine-nygaard-orono-robiner-tennant-kaardal/23699799/

1) There are three other, much smaller wind turbines on his property. They are not the issue.
2) The one that is an issue is much bigger, and is located about 20-25 feet from his neighbor’s house. It is probably 100 feet from his other neighbor’s house
3) These are high priced, closely spaced houses located on Lake Minnetonka (wealthy neighborhood)
4) The issue is over the noise they make and the lightening that they draw.
5) It appears that the Gadsden flag is attached to one of the smaller turbines. Possible revenge against the Tea Party.

It isn’t clear how the turbine affects the foundation of his house


10 posted on 10/05/2015 10:56:33 AM PDT by kidd
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FWIW, from deep in the comments:
This man lives on less than 3/4 of an acre of property. He mounted a home-made, 750lb turbine on top of a 29 foot pole less than 5 feet from his neighbor's property. This contraption was noisy and reflected pulsing flashes of sunlight into neighboring homes. Do his neighbors have any rights? Would you want this thing hovering over YOUR property?

Among other things, it appears he built the structure within his 5' setback. That zoning violation directly diminishes the value of his neighbors property.l

12 posted on 10/05/2015 10:57:16 AM PDT by frog in a pot (What if a previously D liberal candidate promised most of the things we wanted to hear from the R's?)
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This is why you buy your property in the middle of nowhere and do what you want.


17 posted on 10/05/2015 11:06:33 AM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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gotta wonder if, perhaps, there is an electric co-op run by the local govt that doesn’t like competition


22 posted on 10/05/2015 11:15:16 AM PDT by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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He completed the build **AND THEN** applied for the permit.

The authorities consider this a power encroachment, so I think he`s f*cked.


27 posted on 10/05/2015 11:25:54 AM PDT by gaijin
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After all,Al Gore does hold the patent for wind mills.


29 posted on 10/05/2015 11:28:39 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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You might put someone’s eye out with that thing!


34 posted on 10/05/2015 11:34:13 AM PDT by frithguild (The warmth and goodness of Gaia is a nuclear reactor in the Earth's core that burns Thorium)
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Your property isn’t really your property. This country looks more and more like the old Soviet Union.


36 posted on 10/05/2015 11:40:21 AM PDT by beethovenfan (Islam is a cancer on civilization.)
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“The base was level with the ground and 4 feet cubed. We removed the top half of the concrete and used a metal cutting tool to remove the top half of the bolt assembly, rendering the structure unusable,”


43 posted on 10/05/2015 11:48:30 AM PDT by Ray76
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As an engineer who designs rotating machinery (including a few small wind turbines), I wouldn’t want that thing anywhere near my property. I’ve had to do failure analysis on rotating equipment that ‘gets blowed up real good’ and although there’s the possibility that this fellow knows exactly what he is doing, the words ‘homemade’ have disaster written all over them. Has he had a finite element analysis done on the rotating parts by a person who knows what he has done? Was a fatigue analysis completed… again by someone who knew what he was doing? Was the foundation designed by a civil engineer? What calculations has he produced for the tower? What backup system is in place to ensure that it won’t wildly run out of control in the event of a brake failure and self-destruct in a windstorm? Does it even have brakes? And on and on it goes…… I’m all for homegrown talent exercising their rights to invent and test things but they have to be far enough away from others so that if they blow up (as they almost always do), the shrapnel can only do damage to the people and property that are related to the project owner. Even the pros get this one wrong repeatedly…. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqEccgR0q-o The noise is another issue as there are bylaws to do deal with that.


50 posted on 10/05/2015 12:07:42 PM PDT by hecticskeptic (In life it's important to know what you believeÂ….but more more importantly, why you believe it.)
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It is my considered opinion that most people will gladly give up their freedom in return for the right to tell their neighbor what to do.

For most people, freedom is like tonsils. No idea what its good for, best get rid of it. Might cause you trouble down the road.


54 posted on 10/05/2015 12:26:08 PM PDT by marron
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I did a job for this fellow two years back.


55 posted on 10/05/2015 12:26:52 PM PDT by Sawdring
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A form letter he emailed me on 6/29/2014

Going to Jail for Going Green

As I write this letter, I'm wondering if I will be incarcerated in just a couple days. Wednesday morning

at 9 am, my wife and I will appear in Hennepin County District Court to show cause as to why I have

not removed my micro wind turbine. It is a convoluted story which began with the City of Orono

outright refusing me any opportunity to install such a product. They also ignored all of my

correspondence and took an aggressive posture from the start. How ironic will it be if I will be wrongly

deprived of my liberty during our country's celebration of all of our freedom on July 4th?

Our journey has cost us over $125,000 during the last 3 1⁄2 years. We lost at district court, won at the

Minnesota Court of Appeals, somehow lost at the district court with the same judge again, for the exact

same reasons, and then lost at the appeals court when my former lawyer electronically filed a document

It turns out I had the right to install the turbine all along according to a 1995 Minnesota statute (Mn.

Stat. 216F.02). 1995. All individuals in Minnesota do. That is what the law is for. Why Orono

chose not to research and accommodate state law, as they must, is beyond me. In fact, they had a wind

turbine application in the late 1990s which they outright denied as well. The most comical thing that

Orono has stated (recently) in response to our challenge of their total ban on wind turbines is that they

cannot even admit that their ban on wind turbines is a ban on wind turbines.

I am now under a contempt order which can only be seen as illegal as the court never took time to hold

a hearing to determine whether or not the court actually has jurisdiction. The supreme court has

previously ruled that lack of this hearing during contempt proceedings, when it is requested, voids the

contempt process. Not only was I not allowed to have the hearing, as is shown in the transcript, but the

latest order and corresponding memo claims that I waived my right to it. Which I never did. I was

there to ask for the hearing in defense of the contempt order. The most frustrating part is that I have

never once been allowed to personally defend myself in any of these hearings. It sure seems to me that

criminals charged with felonies are afforded more rights than I have been as they have a right to

So here I am again ... wondering what will happen Wednesday. I must say that given past history, I do

not have much confidence that the district court will be reasonable and hold off on the punitive

measure of sending me to jail for 6 months, when a contempt of court violation does not have a

definitive jail sentence. Why not wait until the appeals court has time to review our appeal? The turbine

has withstood many severe storms as I built it to withstand 140 mph destructive wind speed.

I have been able to find justice at the appeals court level before, and I am hoping to do so again. I am

asking the Minnesota Court of Appeals to please expedite a review of our motion for a stay as I am

quite confident that they will apply the law properly and preserve my liberty, as precious as it is.

If this story stirs the patriotic, green minded and / or common sense part of you, please go to

www.ci.orono.mn.us for contact information for Orono elected officials and city staff to voice your

opinions. Share this with friends and family who are like minded as well.

If I do need to sit in a jail cell to make a point of how wrongly I have been treated, so be it. This is too

important for Minnesota and our nation. I can't imagine our founding fathers reaction to a private

citizen's loss of liberties simply for bringing the most modern green energy technology to his home, his

Please help the Nygards by taking a few minutes of your time to help them in their struggle. They ask

for you to spread the word as far as you can and to take the time to contact the individuals listed below.

Send them emails, call them on the phone and let them all know how wrong they are and that we need

to look to the future instead of living in the past!!!

58 posted on 10/05/2015 12:34:22 PM PDT by Sawdring
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Locally in town we are not allowed the type of windmill and battery system I wanted to try on my building. Apparently years back AEP was concerned that there could be a fire hazard because this type system is hooked directly into my electrical system and if it produces more electricity than you are using AEP would owe you money. So the local government type asswipes passed an ordinance that has nothing to do with electrical concerns BUT states that the spinning vertical blades would be a danger to people on the sidewalk. Mine would have been forty plus feet in the air (mounted on top of my building)

Thank goodness AEP is looking out for me.

63 posted on 10/05/2015 1:47:21 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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