[riri]

I am not a proponent of disarming any population. However, when the UK, Australia and Europe were disarmed they were largely homogeneous, peaceful and harmonious places. Ofcourse, that no longer holds true but it did at one time.

We live in a really violent and tribal society and it's only getting worse. Leaving us a sitting ducks would be criminal.

Yeah, I know the elites couldn't care less, I am just stating the obvious.

[elcid1970]

If those Euronations had continued to allow gun ownership & affirmed the right of self defense, they might STILL be largely homogeneous, peaceful and harmonious places.

We’re a divided society, but not nearly as violent & tribal as other places on Earth. Too many potential victims packing. If the odds of dying while committing a violent crime are even money, that tends to dissuade all but the real psychos.

[PROCON]

We live in a really violent and tribal society

The tribal violence exists exclusively in big cities which have been run by liberals for decades.

Sure, violence occurs elsewhere, but not at the level of a Chicago or Baltimore.

We can never allow liberals, who have created this atmosphere of violence, be allowed to solve it.

It would lead to tyranny.

[Svartalfiar]

However, when the UK, Australia and Europe were disarmed they were largely homogeneous, peaceful and harmonious places.

And in Aussieland, gun crime went up (though firearm suicides went down, but that was already part of a trend). In the UK, which was more draconian in their collection efforts, gun crime all went down, but overall crime went up.