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Thinking the unthinkable: A case for orchestration
10/2/2015 | By Laz A. Mataz

Posted on 10/02/2015 7:23:45 AM PDT by Lazamataz

I am increasingly suspicious -- almost convinced -- that these spree-shootings are orchestrated. Let us consider: Only days after Boehner resigns (but stays around through October, able to defy his base) TWO mass shooting events occur within hours of one another: The college in Oregon, and a lesser-publicized Inglis, Florida mass-shooting.

If Obama seemed angry, I suspect it was because the second shooting was so small. Note how the two shootings make a perfect diagonal across the country, symbolically book-ending us with violence.

It's really hard to be the point-man in this controversial subject -- that the mentally-ill and medicated can and are manipulated to commit acts of mass murder for political gain -- but point-man, I shall be. I'll take the catcalls of "conspiracy theorist" and "tin foil hat wearer" and so on. So long as the dialogue is started, I'll take the heat.

It is actually well-known that low-level microwave radiation can cause deleterious mental effects on the brain:

Effect of low level microwave radiation exposure on cognitive function and oxidative stress in rats.

Non-Thermal Effect of Microwave Radiation on Human Brain

Nervous and behavioral effects of microwave radiation in humans.

Some of the effects are irritability, sleeplessness, and bad decision-making skills. In the 1970's, the Soviets were bombarding the American embassy in Moscow with these radiations. We objected strongly, and our cover-story was that there were passive eavesdropping devices in the walls... but from the publicly-available research, we know that there was an additional -- perhaps primary -- concern. That concern was that our personnel's mental acuity was lessened by these radiations.

This microwave effect is something we already know is factual. This research is public. What research is there, classified as secret (or beyond) on manipulating and directing a mentally-ill, medicated individual to perform acts suggested by a handler?

The CIA has had decades of experience in 'handling' people, by an agent, to perform actions that are in the Agency's best interests. The experience is out there.

Before anyone tells me that Obama and his minions would never allow innocents to come to harm in order to advance a gun control agenda, I remind you of Fast and Furious (the ATF gun-running scandal). In this scandal, semi-automatic firearms were allowed to end up in the hands of Mexican drug gangs. Many innocent people died, slain by the firearms made available by Fast and Furious. Obama has shown quite clearly, the ability to promote the death of innocent people so that he can get his precious gun bans.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: fbi; massshooting; mentalillness; microwaveradiation; schoolshooting; schoolshootings; tinhat
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To: Lazamataz; Travis McGee
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Professor Raoul X

61 posted on 10/02/2015 8:29:42 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Pollster1; Lazamataz

Even if we discounted a direct manipulation, the guys posting on the thread filled with losers and nut jobs is EXACTLY the type of thing our intelligence agencies and politicians swear that they would collect and collate only to “keep us safe”. My conclusion on that line is that metadata is collected solely as leverage against dissent and for the PTB to “get out in front” of events like this to capitalize on them for their agenda of disarmament.


62 posted on 10/02/2015 8:29:45 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: gdani

Thank God you cannot alter someone’s behavior with medication! Oh, wait, a whole industry revolves around that.


63 posted on 10/02/2015 8:30:11 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: jsanders2001
I agree and have agreed for some time and was even called an idiot for stating it on here more than a few times but what most people don’t know is that I have experience and training in influencing people using non-verbal / semantic techniques to get them to do what I want them to do as part of my training as an operative in another life. Propaganda and event / psychological manipulation are very real tools used by many law enforcement, investigative and/ or national security agencies, particularly the CIA. This would not be beyond the Obama administration at all given their anti-gun stance nor would it be dificult.

I had a hunch this was possible.

Please expound on this.

64 posted on 10/02/2015 8:32:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

See #59. Apparently this stuff does go on.


65 posted on 10/02/2015 8:34:02 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: Lazamataz
Thank God you cannot alter someone’s behavior with medication! Oh, wait, a whole industry revolves around that.

Thank God you cannot make paranoid declarations with zero proof! Oh, wait, this whole thread revolves around that.

66 posted on 10/02/2015 8:36:06 AM PDT by gdani (No sacred cows)
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To: Ditter

And pretty much while Russia went to work in Syria, no? And just as the Iran “deal” is slammed by Bibi and the community organizer has just come off the world stage.

*Poof* - major distraction in the USA. Again.

Mucho prayers for the victims and their families.


67 posted on 10/02/2015 8:38:05 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: gdani

Whatever, potatohead. I don’t g.a.f. what you think. Change channels.


68 posted on 10/02/2015 8:38:16 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: Lazamataz

69 posted on 10/02/2015 8:40:02 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Lazamataz

Oh, OK. I see the difference.


70 posted on 10/02/2015 8:40:16 AM PDT by KittenClaws ( Normalcy Bias. Do you have it?)
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To: Lazamataz
You're just a wacko conspiracy nut. Just like those who think the mass arrest of 177 "gang criminal" bikers (117 of them with zero prior arrests, let alone convictions) and killing of 9 was a set-up by the Feds.

Conspiracies in governments are things of fiction. Just read your history!

/sarcasm

71 posted on 10/02/2015 8:45:11 AM PDT by Finny (Be prepared to own what you vote for. Voting "against" is a mathematical fallacy.)
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To: circlecity
"You can't put anything past an administration willing to stoop to Fast and Furious"

The public either does not understand, or just can not accept, what went on with Fast and Furious.

Once again the MSM buried the story.

72 posted on 10/02/2015 8:45:54 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: Lazamataz
"We had nowhere near these level of spree shootings just 7 short years ago."

Oh no?

February 4, 2008 Memphis, Tennessee

At Hamilton High School, a 16-year-old student was shot in the leg during an argument with another student over rap music. The victim's injury was not life-threatening.

February 8, 2008 Baton Rouge, Louisiana

Latina Williams, a 23-year-old nursing student at Louisiana Technical College in Baton Rouge, LA, killed two classmates and then herself in a second floor classroom. Karlyn LeBlanc, the aunt of one of the students who died, said she forgave the actions of Latina Williams and offered a statement, "Someone should have caught this before this tragedy happened. She was a victim herself."

February 11, 2008 Memphis, Tennessee

A 19-year-old high school senior student was shot in his school's gym by a 17-year-old high school sophomore student, following a feud that started off campus earlier in the week; after the shooting, the suspect hands his gun to a coach, saying, "It's over now."

February 12, 2008 Oxnard, California

Murder of Larry King: Brandon McInerney, 14, shot Lawrence "Larry" King, 15, in the head twice in the computer laboratory of E.O. Green Junior High School. McInerney was apprehended in a nearby neighborhood. King, who was homosexual, died two days later from his gunshot wounds. McInerney was initially charged with a hate crime, but that enhancement was later dropped. McInerney plead guily to second-degree murder and was sentenced to 21 years in prison.

February 14, 2008 DeKalb, Illinois

Northern Illinois University shooting: Steven Kazmierczak, 27, shot multiple people in a classroom of Northern Illinois University with a 12 gauge Remington Sportsman 48 shotgun, killing five and injuring 21. He then committed suicide. Kazmierczak was not a student at the university, but had attended it the years prior to the attack.

August 14, 2008 Federal Way, Washington

26-year-old Omero Mendez was sitting in his car parked on the Lakota Middle School campus to wait to pick up his girlfriend's son. There, he was confronted by 16-year-old Luis F. Cosgaya-Alvarez and two of his friends who were inside an SUV. Cosgaya-Alvarez flashed gang signs at Mendez, and then shot Mendez once in the head. Mendez later died of his injuries. Cosgaya-Alvarez was arrested a few days later in Seattle and was charged with murder.Cosgaya-Alvarez pleaded guilty to murder and weapon enhancements and was sentenced to 18 years in prison.

August 21, 2008 Knoxville, Tennessee

Central High School, 15-year-old Jamar Siler shoots and kills 15-year-old Ryan McDonald. In 2011, Siler receives 30 years in prison in a plea agreement.

October 16, 2008 Detroit, Michigan

Christopher Walker, 16, was killed, and three other teenagers were seriously wounded during a drive-by shooting at a primary school lawn adjacent to Henry Ford High School, where Walker and the other students were just dismissed from after classes ended. Three teenagers were arrested and charged in connection with the shooting.[320] William Morton, 15, the shooter, was sentenced to life without parole, and Devon Bell was sentenced to 42 years of prison.

October 26, 2008 Conway, Arkansas

2008 University of Central Arkansas shootings. A shooting took place on the campus of University of Central Arkansas, in Conway, outside the Arkansas Hall dormitory. Two students—Ryan Henderson, 18, and Chavares Block, 19—were both fatally shot. A third person, a 19-year-old campus visitor, was shot and wounded in the leg.

November 13, 2008 Fort Lauderdale, Florida

15-year-old Amanda Collette was shot to death at a hallway floor at Dillard High School. The shooter, 15-year-old Teah Wimberly, was sentenced to 25 years to life on a first-degree murder charge.

List of School Shootings in the United States

73 posted on 10/02/2015 8:46:51 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Lazamataz

Maybe so, maybe so...it’s happening way too much.


74 posted on 10/02/2015 8:47:09 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Finny
I know, I know. I stand chastised. Just because, for example, over 800 people saw a flaming object rise from the sky and hit Flight 800 over Long Island, doesn't mean it was a missile!

The government never lies, and is totally out of the conspiracy business.

75 posted on 10/02/2015 8:47:42 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: HandyDandy

“Just for a moment stop and consider what you would be like if you’d been born just 20yrs ago, into the world we are living in now. The older generation has lived in and experienced a completely different world. We had boundaries and values, a common history and culture. These sad children are lost.”

Bingo. Anyone over 40 or so probably has no idea what the conditions are like that create these whackos.


76 posted on 10/02/2015 8:48:22 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Finny; jsanders2001
Btw, this is the most interesting post in the thread:

I agree and have agreed for some time and was even called an idiot for stating it on here more than a few times but what most people don’t know is that I have experience and training in influencing people using non-verbal / semantic techniques to get them to do what I want them to do as part of my training as an operative in another life. Propaganda and event / psychological manipulation are very real tools used by many law enforcement, investigative and/ or national security agencies, particularly the CIA. This would not be beyond the Obama administration at all given their anti-gun stance nor would it be dificult.

77 posted on 10/02/2015 8:51:44 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: Boogieman

You are citing many individual shootings centered around schools. That’s not the discussion.


78 posted on 10/02/2015 8:53:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Ok. We won't call them 'Anchor Babies'. From now on, we shall call them 'Fetal Grappling Hooks'.)
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To: Lazamataz

Laz, we talked a bit about this before and I had typed out a chunk of a response but then I remembered my favorite quote. It summs op the whole thing pretty well. And fittingly it comes from the sci/fi/conspiracy movie, “Men in Black”

Edwards: Why the big secret? People are smart. They can handle it.

Kay: A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you’ll know tomorrow.


79 posted on 10/02/2015 8:54:35 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Lazamataz
Are obama operatives in direct contact with shooters? Who knows.

Is obama promoting conflict between classes, races, genders and religions that, in some cases, results in violence? Most definitely!

As a Marxist, obama's prerevolutionary duties are to sow discontent and promote discord, laying the groundwork for societal breakdown and communist ascendancy. These tactics are well documented and in full display in obama's America. His regime has had direct contact with OWS, BLM and other revolutionary groups.

We should not be surprised when the occasional nut job is pushed over the edge of sanity. Obama is promoting that and counting on it.

80 posted on 10/02/2015 9:02:22 AM PDT by matt1234 (Note to GOPe lurkers: I and thousands like me will NEVER vote for Jeb Bush)
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