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This Hellcat Still Purrs Along Nicely
WSJ ^ | 29 sept 2015 | A.J. BAIME

Posted on 09/29/2015 11:58:19 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

Mine was built in 1944 by Buick in Flint, Mich., with a 975-cubic inch airplane engine in it. According to my records, it was sold as surplus after World War II to the Yugoslavian military, where it was used in the civil war there in the 1990s.

“Would whoever owns the 1984 Camaro, please move it, or we’re going to have it towed away.” Of course, nobody moved it. With everyone watching, I fired up the tank destroyer and crushed that Camaro. The crowds loved it.

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TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: 1944; aviation; tankdestroyer; ww2
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To: tcrlaf

The StuGs were administratively under the artillery. They were originally intended as armored mobile infantry support guns (Sturm Geschutz; “assault gun”). However they became tank killers when it was discovered they could mount the effective PaK 40 75mm antitank gun on a Mark III chassis. The StuG III was cheap and easy to produce. Guderian wanted them transferred to thePanzer arm but the artillery clique objected, as service in a StuG was the only way an atrillleryman coluld get his Ritterskreuz.


21 posted on 09/29/2015 12:44:15 PM PDT by henkster (Liberals forget Dickens' kids forged an Empire on which the sun never set.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Love my Hellcat in World of Tanks Blitz.


22 posted on 09/29/2015 12:46:35 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: tcrlaf

PS; re the above post, the Germans made an administrative destinction between the Sturm Geschutz and the Jagdpanzer (tank hunter). Same concept; use an existing tank chassis to carry a bigger gun. But administratively, the Jagdpanzer IV, Jagdpanther and Jagdtigers were under the panzer arm, not the artillery. That’s why the different labels for the same conceptual weapons system. Just a note on the Wehrmacht interservice rivalries.


23 posted on 09/29/2015 12:50:02 PM PDT by henkster (Liberals forget Dickens' kids forged an Empire on which the sun never set.)
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To: tcrlaf

I don’t believe an 88 was ever mounted on a Stug. Jagdpanther was the 88-based TD.


24 posted on 09/29/2015 12:51:32 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Yosemitest

Me too. :(


25 posted on 09/29/2015 1:01:11 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Yosemitest

That’s what I was thinking!


26 posted on 09/29/2015 1:08:07 PM PDT by cld51860 (Volo pro veritas)
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BFL


27 posted on 09/29/2015 1:11:13 PM PDT by zeugma (Zaphod Beeblebrox for president! Or Cruz if Zaphod is unavailable.)
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To: central_va
I beg to differ. They could be beat.


28 posted on 09/29/2015 1:17:43 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: sparklite2

droooool...


29 posted on 09/29/2015 1:19:06 PM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Nice but how about those Chrysler tanks?

http://www.amazon.com/Tanks-are-Mighty-Fine-Things/dp/193768461X/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1443558620&sr=1-2&keywords=tanks+are+mighty+fine+things

Great gift idea for any of your liberal friends.


30 posted on 09/29/2015 1:34:12 PM PDT by Shark24
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To: SampleMan

Looks like an ass shot.


31 posted on 09/29/2015 1:35:51 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SampleMan

How did we win the ground war against the Germans with so technically inferior armor? It is a miracle.


32 posted on 09/29/2015 1:50:23 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Shark24

Years back Andy Rooney, in an effort to save money, suggested the army purchase LeBarons in place of tanks.
300 inplace of each tank!

2,375,000 LeBarons!
https://books.google.com/books?id=ETBYEHfpbxIC&pg=PT26&lpg=PT26&dq=Andy+Rooney,++help+Chrysler,+suggested+the+army+purchase+LeBarons+in+place+of+tanks&source=bl&ots=Fyfnjw7Fzk&sig=hp_mRndhIgKBhultZJcqbFUshbM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAGoVChMIma6JspydyAIVgm0-Ch1hPwJR#v=onepage&q=Andy%20Rooney%2C%20%20help%20Chrysler%2C%20suggested%20the%20army%20purchase%20LeBarons%20in%20place%20of%20tanks&f=false


33 posted on 09/29/2015 2:52:45 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (BINGO!)
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To: central_va

Useful only in a defensive role and then only from an ambush position. The M18 was the best tank destroyer of WWII, but got too late to the fight to make much of a difference. The whole tank destroyer concept died on VE Day, until we invented guided missiles that had a maximum range beyond that of tank main gun. When I was in the Balkans in 1994, I did not see any M18’s, but I saw plenty M36’s. They served for a long time, even though no longer thought to be useful.


34 posted on 09/29/2015 3:46:00 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: central_va

No, its a side entry.


35 posted on 09/29/2015 6:02:24 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: central_va
How did we win the ground war against the Germans with so technically inferior armor? It is a miracle.

1. We had more stuff.

2. We had air supremacy.

German tanks were usually reduced to acting as defensive tank destroyers, because if they moved into the open, they would be taken out by artillery, flanking tank assaults, or tactical air.

It is too bad for our troops that we didn't get Pershing tanks to Europe in 1944.

36 posted on 09/29/2015 6:05:29 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: archy

ping

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3342580/posts?page=6#6


37 posted on 09/29/2015 9:47:37 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Trump is not our candidate, he is our Special Forces unit.)
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To: central_va
The Krauts had TD's that couldn't be beat.

Yes they were.

38 posted on 09/30/2015 8:41:12 AM PDT by archy
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To: B4Ranch
ping


39 posted on 09/30/2015 8:43:29 AM PDT by archy
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To: Shark24
Nice but how about those Chrysler tanks?

Great gift idea for any of your liberal friends.

Right down to the A57 *multibank* engine, five six-cylinder Chrysler 251 cubic inch flathead auto engines mounted on a common crankshaft, with all the interesting challenges that offered in the fuel system, ignition electrical wiring, and long-term maintenance; I hope those pals are mechanically inclined. Initially uncertain as to call it the *inline-radial,* the *cloverleaf* engine, the designation *multibank* eventually caught on. The welded hull of the M4A4 Sherman was stretched to fit the thing inside, Though the US restricted the use of the M4A4 to stateside training, the Rube Goldberg engines were indeed durable, and as survivable as any gasoline-engine tank engine could be. Chrysler claimed the A57 could still move the tank it was fitted in even if 12 out of its 30 cylinders were knocked out

Among the other users of the circa 7500 built: The British Royal Marines Armoured Support Group, which fitted the things with indirect fire sights and used them as beachhead indirect fire artillery at the Normandy landings. The British became the primary users of the M4A4/ Sherman V, which may constitute *giving them as a gift to your liberal friends.*

40 posted on 09/30/2015 12:30:57 PM PDT by archy
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