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LIBERAL WRITER: Trump’s Border Wall Would be DANGEROUS for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS
Progressives Today ^ | 08/24/2015 | Aleister

Posted on 08/25/2015 9:21:39 AM PDT by Rusty0604

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To: Rusty0604
Why don't liberals ever try to explain why MEXICO SUCKS so bad, parents pay smugglers to bring their unaccompanied minors into the USA.
41 posted on 08/25/2015 10:08:07 AM PDT by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: ConservativeInPA

You prefer the border be flexible?
And fixed fortifications have also proven to be effective and easy to maintain in the past as well.


42 posted on 08/25/2015 10:09:39 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: ConservativeInPA
"Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man." - Gen. George S. Patton, Jr.

See Great wall of China. As long as it was defended it did not fall.

Anything built by man can be defeated by man. - Multiple sources and variants

Apparently all liberals. They seem to be of the opinion that if something is not perfect then why bother.

They also lack the ability to think of doing upgrades.

Dead men can't invade - Me

So you are going to wipe out the entire planet? Yep. You are a liberal.

43 posted on 08/25/2015 10:13:45 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: A CA Guy

The wall or staying on their side of the wall?


44 posted on 08/25/2015 10:14:35 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Little Ray

No, no, no, no, no.

Democrat voters never assume any risk. The government is to be there to protect them at all times against all things. They are to be protected from injury at all costs.

Didn’t you know?


45 posted on 08/25/2015 10:15:53 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Trump campaign ad: Trump, in his Apprentice chair, saying "America, you're hired")
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To: Biggirl

50’ high, 30’ across to run the length of the US / Mexico border with the word “TRUMP” displayed in gold every 1/2 mile.


46 posted on 08/25/2015 10:18:21 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Trump campaign ad: Trump, in his Apprentice chair, saying "America, you're hired")
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To: rey

“So by this logic anything that would impede a criminal from stealing or committing any other crime might be construed to be a dangerous because undeterred they might come to harm?”

You’re applying logic to the illogical. That can only end well by pure chance.


47 posted on 08/25/2015 10:19:38 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Trump campaign ad: Trump, in his Apprentice chair, saying "America, you're hired")
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
You prefer the border be flexible?

No. Go back to my original post. A barrier of concertina wire, followed by mine fields, followed by machine guns. There would be warnings on the wire about the guaranteed use of lethal force. This is simple and effective solution that can be quickly deployed. It's a hell of lot cheaper and low maintenance.

48 posted on 08/25/2015 10:22:19 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Do Not Vote for List: See my profile)
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To: Biggirl

Thanks for the link.


49 posted on 08/25/2015 10:36:03 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
So you are going to wipe out the entire planet? Yep. You are a liberal

I am not talking about wiping out the entire planet. I am talking about allowing a few illegals make the mistake of killing themselves in mine fields. The messsge will be clear. Death awaits you, and the invasion will stop. BTW, This isn't China 1,200 years ago.

You need to read some history before calling Patton and others liberals. From your name I can only assume you are spineless, poorly read and willing to spend large sums of tax dollars on ineffective solutions that make you feel safe.

50 posted on 08/25/2015 10:38:15 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Do Not Vote for List: See my profile)
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To: TexasCajun

But then they come over here and disrespect our laws and culture, thereby transforming us into another Mexico.


51 posted on 08/25/2015 10:38:28 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604
"If that ever happens, the consequences could be deadly for the hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants who attempt to cross the border each year...


52 posted on 08/25/2015 10:39:39 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Rusty0604
"If that ever happens, the consequences could be deadly for the hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants who attempt to cross the border each year..."

Not seeing a downside here.

53 posted on 08/25/2015 10:47:17 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Rusty0604

DUH! That is the whole POINT.


54 posted on 08/25/2015 10:48:09 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Travis T. OJustice

My preferred option is two walls at least half a mile apart, with a labyrinth laden with deadly traps in between. It would be modular so we could change the maze every week or two so people can’t learn the safe path through it.

Then, I’d leave the doors wide open on each side. Those who want to try to come over would be free to do so, but only a few of the cleverest and most physically fit would survive.


55 posted on 08/25/2015 10:50:47 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ConservativeInPA

Is there any practical difference between a fixed fortification and a fixed obstacle like the minefields you favor?


56 posted on 08/25/2015 10:54:20 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Rusty0604

Trump’s wall would be deadly? Sheesh, it’d be NOTHING compared to mine.

Mine would have a quad-.50 every mile along the border, mounted in towers about 300 yards back of the fence and in towers 150 feet or so high. They’d be aimed by thermal-imaging and motion-detectors, and have a minimum of 10,000 rounds each. Oh, and there would be at least a couple dozen company-sized units of para-military border patrol in key sectors, armed with grenade launchers, mortars and anti-tank missiles. No one is crossing that border without paying a price.

Don’t want to be hurt, OK, I’m not looking to hurt you. Just come in via the permitted pathways (literally and legally). Otherwise, there are no rules but “We win.”


57 posted on 08/25/2015 10:56:00 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: blackdog
So dig a really deep and long pit.

With gators, crocs, lions, hyenas, etc. Don't be half-arsed about it. :>)

58 posted on 08/25/2015 10:57:23 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Rusty0604
Trump’s Border Wall Would be DANGEROUS for ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS

As well it should be for all illegal alien invaders.

59 posted on 08/25/2015 11:01:03 AM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: Boogieman
Is there any practical difference between a fixed fortification and a fixed obstacle like the minefields you favor?

Cost to implement, cost to maintain, time to implement, flexibility (additional tactics can used when required and there will be money to do so) and lastly deadly deterrent (don't screw with us or you are dead)

60 posted on 08/25/2015 11:06:42 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Do Not Vote for List: See my profile)
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