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Study finds septic tanks don't keep poo out of our water
Newser via Fox News ^ | 08.04.2015 | Elizabeth Armstrong Moore

Posted on 08/04/2015 1:26:09 PM PDT by dware

In the largest watershed study of its kind, Michigan State University researchers have sampled 64 river systems in the state for E. coli and the human fecal bacteria B-theta and found that, in a nutshell, septic tanks aren't working.

At least not as well as experts thought. The researchers say that "sample after sample" shows bacterial concentrations are "highest where there were higher numbers of septic systems in the watershed area," water expert Joan Rose tells Phys.org.

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TOPICS: Agriculture; Health/Medicine; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: christopherrobin; dsj02; hysteria; ignorance; phobia; septictanks
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To: MSF BU

That’s the plan. We should all live in cities, so that we don’t ruin the countryside for the animals.


21 posted on 08/04/2015 1:52:07 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: SamAdams76

Gee, you could write a book.


22 posted on 08/04/2015 1:52:35 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Voting is acting white.)
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To: shotgun

You win the grand prize.

Elimination of all but a few wealthy rural dwellers is the whole point of Agenda 21.


23 posted on 08/04/2015 1:52:58 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Yep, move everybody but the ruling class and their wealthy partners to the cities.


24 posted on 08/04/2015 1:54:59 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: Kartographer

No it’s deeper and more insidious than that.

It’s meant to drive rural people into controllable cities, and put small farms out of business because we can feed ourselves.

My wife’s family owns approx. 2000 acres in Eastern KY. Midway through Obama’s first term they got a very intrusive questionnaire from the census, that they were “required” to complete.
Questions about food grown, and sold. Access to water sources etc.
I told them then, “wait and see if in a few years you don’t start hearing that your cattle aren’t going to be allowed access to the large creek running through your property because of “contamination”.
Looks like they are taking a 2 pronged approach to the matter.
The war is coming folks.

Head down
Eyes open
Powder dry.


25 posted on 08/04/2015 1:57:20 PM PDT by rikkir (You can lead a horde to knowledge but you can't make them think. (TnkU ctdonath2))
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To: rikkir

There is literally no place in Michigan where we are more than a mile from some kind of spring, creek, river, pond, or lake.

Where I sit right now I’m no more than 50 feet from the shoreline of the lake.


26 posted on 08/04/2015 2:01:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: cripplecreek

Yep, and the EPA took control of all of them earlier this year.
How long before they issue the NEW contaminants list?


27 posted on 08/04/2015 2:05:07 PM PDT by rikkir (You can lead a horde to knowledge but you can't make them think. (TnkU ctdonath2))
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To: central_va
They finally put tops on the open water tanks in our area....bird poo!! They had to constantly add chlorine to combat the bacteria.

Stop feeding the ducks and birds....

28 posted on 08/04/2015 2:05:56 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: rikkir
That is why I am thinking ahead and investing in a company that makes these!

29 posted on 08/04/2015 2:07:27 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: dware

I used to work for a guy that was instrumental in the development of the aerobic septic tanks. As part of his sell, he dipped a glass in the field line and drank it.

He was killed riding a motorcycle by a hit and run in his ‘90’s.


30 posted on 08/04/2015 2:08:00 PM PDT by Clay Moore (Keep JRandomFreeper in you prayers)
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To: cripplecreek

I’ll wager there are higher levels of poo in the water when there are cattle and other livestock in the watershed area. Probably the same general areas where septic tanks are found.


31 posted on 08/04/2015 2:11:43 PM PDT by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: 1Old Pro

“There are also a lot of “fake” septic systems in areas with a lot of septic systems. What’s a fake system, one where the out pipe runs directly down to the river or other open waste area.”

My cousin bought a house in the country by a creek and was told it had a modern septic system. After painting in preparation to move in he was washing brushes in the kitchen sink. A trail of paint started flowing down the creek almost immediately.


32 posted on 08/04/2015 2:14:19 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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To: Kartographer

Ok I now have to mop the Pepsi off my keyboard!

ROTFLMAO!

I just had the image of my 81 year old 6’2” grumpy ass Father in Law putting those things on his cattle...especially the Bull, and now I can’t quit laughing!


33 posted on 08/04/2015 2:16:23 PM PDT by rikkir (You can lead a horde to knowledge but you can't make them think. (TnkU ctdonath2))
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To: Ditter

Probably not, as your well water would have been tested for bacterial content when it was installed and/or when you bought the property.


34 posted on 08/04/2015 2:18:00 PM PDT by expat2
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To: dware

First, I don’t know if this study accounts for the possibility of failed tanks and/or people who have chosen to hard pipe directly to the creek, rather than fix a clogged system. Other possibilities include overloaded systems because all the adult kids and the grandkids have moved back home and into the basement in Barry’s economy. So the study itself could just be a bunch of poo-poo.

Second, I see this as part of a large push against rural living. If septic tanks are declared ineffective, it will become virtually impossible to build a new house outside of where sanitary sewer pipes run (ie the city).

By happenstance, one of my additional duties at my job is reviewing the occasional septic system plan. Septic tanks do not work by magic or voo-doo. There are some basic principals at work. There is no reason it shouldn’t work just as well as the city’s treatment plant.


35 posted on 08/04/2015 2:20:03 PM PDT by lacrew
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To: WayneS

“ricers”

I think you just stumbled on a new pejorative term.


36 posted on 08/04/2015 2:21:40 PM PDT by lacrew
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To: MSF BU; Kartographer
...no...but...it might give them the impetus to begin to insist on septic systems which are much more involved, expensive and impose burdens on people living in the exurbs, suburbs and rural areas.

Actually, it would be more likely the impetus to force folks off their rural land and into cities, where they can control the sewer system. Can't hook to sewer, can't live there.

37 posted on 08/04/2015 2:21:55 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: cripplecreek
There is literally no place in Michigan

Now see, with a handle like cripple creek, I just assumed you were a Colorado FReeper. Lol. No, I generally don't perve profile pages. Lol.

38 posted on 08/04/2015 2:22:37 PM PDT by dware (Yeah, so? What are we going to do about it?)
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To: Ditter

It could have been, but most likely at that depth the well water was located under a layer of clay (confining layer. virtually nothing gets through clay. What can happen though is that shallow ground water can get contaminated and as it moves through lenses in the sub-strata, flow into a deep aquifer and then that gets contaminated.

The rule of thumb for drinking water is if comes from a well then it does not require any pre-treatment because of the natural filtration. But for your own peace of mind if you ever buy another place with a water well, have it tested prior to closing the purchase.


39 posted on 08/04/2015 2:23:08 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: IYAS9YAS; Kartographer
Can't hook to sewer, can't live there.

That is exactly what I thought when I read it.

40 posted on 08/04/2015 2:23:23 PM PDT by dware (Yeah, so? What are we going to do about it?)
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