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In Iraq, I raided insurgents. In Virginia, the police raided me.
Washington Post ^ | July 24, 2015 | Alex Horton

Posted on 08/03/2015 9:04:26 PM PDT by Altariel

Edited on 08/04/2015 12:19:55 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Altariel

Yes I did. I don’t trust the Obama supporter.


21 posted on 08/03/2015 10:18:22 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Altariel
It’s the same culture that characterized the early phases of the Iraq war, in which I served a 15-month tour in 2006 and 2007. Soldiers left their sprawling bases in armored vehicles, leveling buildings with missile strikes and shooting up entire blocks during gun battles with insurgents, only to return to their protected bases and do it all again hours later.

Ah, Vietnam. Same-same.

22 posted on 08/03/2015 10:19:58 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: PghBaldy

He still works for the Regime http://www.blogs.va.gov/VAntage/author/vacohortoa/


23 posted on 08/03/2015 10:27:26 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: PghBaldy

Your comments suggest you did not comprehend what you read.


24 posted on 08/03/2015 10:27:33 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel
Domestic police forces would benefit from a similar change in strategy. Instead of relying on aggression, they should rely more on relationships. Rather than responding to a squatter call with guns raised, they should knock on the door and extend a hand. But unfortunately, my encounter with officers is just one in a stream of recent examples of police placing their own safety ahead of those they’re sworn to serve and protect.

Domestic police forces would benefit from getting the crap kicked out of them every time they pulled such a stunt.
25 posted on 08/03/2015 10:27:36 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: PghBaldy
"a guy with PTSD"

A guy with PTSD checks every door and window 2-3 times, takes a shot, and ALWAYS has his favorite pistol on the night stand.

100% of the time.

26 posted on 08/03/2015 10:36:13 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Altariel

” the managers of my apartment complex moved me to a model unit while a crew repaired a leak in my dishwasher.”

What? He was moved to another apartment because of a leaky dishwasher? A 1/2 hour job by any plumber? I did hundreds of these jobs. Never had to have anybody move out!


27 posted on 08/03/2015 10:37:28 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: Altariel

I call bullshit on the whole article.

The guy is a liberal.

He called a rifle an assault weapon. Gave himself away.


28 posted on 08/03/2015 11:05:15 PM PDT by Romans Nine
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To: Altariel

This sh1t is why if shtf many folks will not help the cops.

This kind of badge thug bullsh1t from amped up LEOs, not peace officers.


29 posted on 08/03/2015 11:57:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Altariel

Our house was raided by mistake by the King County Swat team 17 years ago. Fortunately, I was at work but my wife had guns pointed at her and was held up against a wall while people ran around the house yelling and tearing things up. We never did get an explanation that made any sense.


30 posted on 08/04/2015 12:16:24 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Altariel

I wonder if the writer knows that the same urban tactics he used in Iraq were developed by the police...


31 posted on 08/04/2015 12:26:23 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: Altariel

My take on this article is this. The police conducted what was essentially a building sweep for a possible intruder. Search tactics, firearm placement, lpriority of Fire...all this is for efficient and safe searching. The melodramatic prose notwithstanding. My coworkers and I have done hundreds of these. Most of the time there is no one actually inside...but we practice our training to keep up muscle memory. Finding someone inside a residence that “is not supposed to be there” would be handled by a cover officer and a contact officer. It’s not complicated. I guarantee that the call came in from a neighbor who was afraid of a break in next door. That’s all the information that was given. Maybe they should have made an extra effort to check and see if the apartment was legitimately occupied...but it sounds as if they announced their presence and didn’t get an answer...so the made entry to clear it. Anyway...maybe they were too aggressive, maybe not. Information is power...maybe they could have had more...maybe not.


32 posted on 08/04/2015 1:48:13 AM PDT by bike800
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To: DanielRedfoot
Police Officers are intended to protect and serve the public

One would think so, but not the case, actually. The USSC has already come down on this - the police's duty is to enforce the law; they are not obligated to "protect" you.

33 posted on 08/04/2015 2:15:00 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Altariel
The author may be a flaming liberal but he has a valid point: police department tactics are unsafe and leaning towards lethal action unnecessarily. In this case, weapons drawn, pointing in a safe direction would have gotten the job done without risking someone who wasn't a bad guy. It only takes milliseconds to aim and shoot if the suspect makes a move.

When I got out of the hospital after Vietnam, still recovering from a serious gunshot wound, I was pulled over violently by an LAPD officer while I was driving on a residential street. "Violently" is defined as running my car off the road and over the curb and when I opened my door I stared down the barrel of a 12 gauge riot shotgun. I was deeply shocked and positive that my next second was going to be my last, so I froze (and shook all over). The cop yelled at me to get out of the car and he was shaking with adrenaline and anger. I had trouble getting out of the car because I still had a full-length steel leg brace on and couldn't move easily or quickly. He kicked me to the ground and kept the shotgun pointed at my head.

It turned out that the cop had gotten a call that there was some robbery nearby and he mistook my car for the getaway car and he came within a hairsbreadth of killing me. When he finally confirmed that the real suspect had already been caught, he very angrily issued me a ticket for "making and unsafe lane change".

Welcome home.

34 posted on 08/04/2015 3:58:40 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: PghBaldy; Altariel
Thanks for the lead. It calls into serious question the author's motive and honesty. I found the chronology of the author's association with the Obama Regime and that of the VA (waiting list) scandal very revealing.

Here's a November 2010 excerpt from his own blog announcing that he's taken a job from the Obama Regime to work on their VA's propaganda blog:

"...the Department of Veterans Affairs was expanding its new media reach, and it needed someone to helm a forthcoming blog.... Today I announce a new mission: the launch of VA's blog. It's called VAntage Point, and its purpose is simple: to transform the mode of communication between veterans and VA."

armydude.blogspot [He only posted only one more entry here after this announcement of joining the Obama team blog.]

This is from the same time the VA was using underhanded scheduling practices to deny vets desperately needed medical care. Many vets died waiting on phony waiting lists - a practice that top Regime VA officials in Washington were aware of in 2010:
"Robert Petzel resigned last week as the top health official for the Department of Veterans Affairs, just one day after testifying before a Senate committee that he knew VA health clinics were using inappropriate scheduling practices as early as 2010."

"This memo shows that the VA knew of records manipulation in 2010" - washingtonpost.com


35 posted on 08/04/2015 5:01:51 AM PDT by drpix
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To: Altariel

I put a large part of the blame for incidents like this and others on the officer’s training.

If your training since day one ends with you shooting someone you are being told that every incident MUST end in someone’s death. A complete, not a whitewash, investigation ever takes place after a SWAT shooting you will discover that none of their training exercises have a no shoot solution.

Even the FBI in the 1930s knew there has to be situations where shooting in NOT the proper result. Too bad local LEOs haven’t been taught this life saving training.


36 posted on 08/04/2015 6:38:28 AM PDT by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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To: Altariel

>> Did you read the article? <<

Silly question. Reading not required. We don’t want to be bothered by the facts.


37 posted on 08/04/2015 6:58:37 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: SoConPubbie

http://reason.com/blog/2015/08/03/swat-team-liable-for-wrong-house-flash-b

Check out this link. It indicates that the legal immunity of police in such cases may be getting weaker. One can only hope so!


38 posted on 08/04/2015 7:01:55 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: PghBaldy

Ahh, clearly bloggers are more suspicious than men who threaten to kill someone for the crime of lying in their own bed and twitching in fear at the thought of being riddled with bullets upon their own mattress.

Clearly men like him are of greater service to the Obama regime than men with government issued-guns and uniforms who believe they are “serving” their community by shooting first and asking questions later.

Funny, I don’t recall seeing that sentiment in the writings of Jefferson, Adams, Washington....


39 posted on 08/04/2015 8:02:21 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Nip

Bingo, and training like this is directly responsible for the death and dismemberment of even the most innocent of our society, including children.

Training like this *directly* benefits the Obama regime; those who support police militarization are supporting a tyrant-preferred method of clinging to unlawful power.


40 posted on 08/04/2015 8:04:10 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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