Apple — Please, be nice to Microsoft — Business Insider
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Posted on 08/02/2015 6:05:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
It's been a few days since Microsoft Windows 10 launched and so far I'm loving it — and that's coming from someone who's been using a Macbook for the last 10 years.
There's just one thing missing. Well, two, technically.
I really miss my Apple and Google apps.
There are lots of perks to buying into the Apple ecosystem. With a Mac and an iPhone, you get all kinds of computing superpowers.
There's Handoff, an Apple feature which lets you shunt websites and draft emails from the phone to the desktop. There's Apple's Airdrop, which lets you send files (mostly photos) wirelessly between iPhone and the Mac. There's Continuum, which lets you receive phone calls on the computer or iPad.
But for my money, the best and most useful thing on the Mac is the Messages app, which lets you read and reply to text messages straight from the desktop. Originally, it would only work for Apple's own iMessage standard, but it was broadened earlier this year to include all text messages.
It's absurdly useful, especially while I'm trying to multitask at work.
On Windows, you lose all of that. There's likely no technical reason why Apple's couldn't make these features available on Windows, but Apple prefers to keep its best toys on its own side of the fence.
That makes a lot of business sense: Mac sales have defied the overall shrinkage of the PC market.
That's at least partially because Macs make an amazing complement to the always-popular iPhone — a smartphone that sells 47.5 million units during a bad quarter, and the cash cow that allows Apple to sit on a massive mountain of cash.
But Apple's no-Windows policy could also backfire if Windows 10 becomes a smash hit.
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As far as doing drivebys on Apple threads, it is just a free shot for me, some are obsessed and get “censored”. Many people have an enormous need to be part of some organization-sports, PTA, Elks, or Apple, etc. I poke at all of them sooner or later. Watch the movie “Best of Show.” It splains a lot about why I view such people as foolish and dull.
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What you've been doing is neither seamless nor integrated. Into your operating system. It's a kludge, Tophat. It works only because you made it work. It doesn't work for everybody or every Android user.
You didn't describe a problem with Apple, dila, you just described a totally inept or deliberately corrupt, and obstructive IT department. I vote for the latter, given my experience with the snobbish anti-Apple bias of the IT departments toward non-Microsoft gear. I had no problems integrating Macs into Microsoft network environments without jumping through the ridiculous hoops these bozos required which deliberately degraded the output of your documentation department.
Please show me the documentation for you assertion. Apple was using TCP/IP stacks and addressing back as part of the Mac in the 80s. Apple talk had adapters for Ethernet 10 that worked quite well. I've still got some of them in a box out in my garage. Where is this Jobs' declaration?
Hypocrite! Every single Windows computer manufacturer has their hardware manufactured in the same Chinese factories as Apple. . . Apple is merely one of the over 500 customers who contract to have their hardware assembled by Foxconn or Pegatron.
Here is a partial list of the top 52 of FoxConn's customers I've been able to compile from news articles where their contractural relationships were mentioned over the past five years:
I bet some of your hard hardware makers are on that list. . . and I can assure you that if their stuff is made elsewhere than Foxconn, it's far more likely underage workers are making it, because Apple isn't looking over their shoulders!
Apple is the ONLY one of those five hundred that has in its contract that employees working on its product assembly lines must be over 18. . . and has its own company paid monitors at its suppliers checking to assure the contract worker standards and work conditions are being met. Apple has actually PULLED a two BILLION DOLLAR contract from a supplier who failed to meet those requirements and took the business to a higher cost supplier. Other manufacturers merely join China Labor Rights organizations to show they are concerned but Apple actually is doing something. These are facts!
Then you decry an American company for making profits? What are you? A Liberal Democrat? You're obviously no conservative, and certainly not a capitalist. Then you insult Apple users again with your idiotic prejudiced "Prius owners" drivel! BAH!
Thank you, once again, for making my point.
I don’t think you recall how difficult it was to work with Apple and MS Computers at the time.
“My real problem with Apple is that they DELIBERTLY chose to make obscene profits (and enrich the Chi-coms) by having products made in the China. “
It sounds as if you believe the electronic components for PC products are made in hollow trees here in the US?
It sounds as if you have something against maximizing profits?
It sounds as if your preferred world is a commodity world?
I don’t defend any of it because I am not a cult member. Computers and phones are just tools to me; not how I identify my self worth or position in life.
If you went to 100 Apple cult members with a petition to allow 16 yo’s to work in factory jobs in the US most would be against it. That is what I object too.
I have no problem with maxing out profit. I try to do it everyday - within the law and common decency. I do have a BIG problem DELIBERTLY choosing to enrich the Chi-coms over putting production facilities in the US. Apple cultists will point to the US Mac factory as “see Apple mfgs in the US.” My question is if they can do it once why not all the time? Answer: Because Apple chose to not do it.
Back in the 80s IBM mainframes used Token Ring local area networks. Terminals were 3270, over SNA or SDLC. If you wanted to talk to them, you made adapters for those protocols.
Unlike the PC users that trash every Apple thread.
Does every Android phone sold this year run the same operating system?
When an operating system update is announced, will it work on most of the Android devices sold in the las 4 or 5 years?
Does your Phone Service Provider put cr@pware on your android Phone?
Can my 10 year old grand kid or my 70 year old wife use all the features on the Android device they bought this year?
The silliest case maid by PC Geeks is they think they are the target market of Apple when in fact there is only about 2% of the user base that could be considered Geeks, 98% of users are just people that want to do something on a computer, Apple knows that and makes it easy enough for them to do.
I have never felt compelled to go on a PC thread and comment about the character of the people that are interested in those threads.
You clearly didn't read post #26... and you've already responded to it.
So you belong to the I hate Apple and any Idiot that uses them organization? Cool.
No sir, I rebutted everyone of your "points". . . and showed you were wrong. Hypocrite.
I had the underage discussion with another Freeper not too long ago. Apple had an independent outside agency audit its supply chain of over 1.2 million workers over a seven year period in 2013 and they found a total of 419 underage workers during that time. . . the majority of them at that company from which Apple PULLED that two billion dollar contract for not cooperating with Apple's labor standards. Most of the 419 underage workers discovered had used counterfeit IDs to secure employment. In other words, mad_as_he$$, it was NOT a company policy to employ underage workers.
Apple has in its contracts a requirement that any underage worker found working on an Apple assembly line must be educated with a FULL ride scholarship including living expenses at a University by the offending company until age 25. This is intended as a disincentive to discourage the deliberate hiring of underage workers. It works. Strangely on 37% of the underage workers accepted the scholarships, usually due to family pressures to work instead.
Sorry, you are again wrong.
No sir. . . I did it all the time. Your IT department sabotaged the process. I ran into THAT all the time.
Please show where Apple has a policy of allowing 16 year olds to work on its assembly lines. You won't find it. In fact you will find a prohibition in its contracts with its supply chain and penalties for doing so. Sorry you are WRONG!
You just can't admit it.
Apple was capable of using Token Ring protocols as well. There were adaptors for those as well. However, they were not as common.
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