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Why Does Country Need New Citizens Who Won’t Defend It?
Oathkeepers ^ | July 27, 2015 | David Codrea

Posted on 07/27/2015 11:10:43 AM PDT by OddLane

The United States Citizenship and Immigration Services has announced a change in policy regarding the oath taken by naturalization candidates: They will no longer be required “to declare that they will ‘bear arms on behalf of the United States’ and ‘perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States.’”

Exclusion on religious and moral grounds has its roots in the Founding era, some will point out.

“After the Declaration of Independence, a number of state constitutions specifically recognized the rights of conscientious objectors,” the book Congressional Protection of Religious Liberty documents. “The 1776 Pennsylvania constitution provided: ‘Nor can any man who is conscientiously scrupulous of bearing arms, be justly compelled thereto…’”

Likewise, the constitutions of Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine provided similar exemptions. Those were practical recognition concessions concerning people and faiths that were already established at the time.

Still, this latest move by the Obama administration leaves open some questions.

The preamble to the Constitution includes a handful of specific limited purposes for forming a national government that are often intentionally overlooked by those counting on the rest of us being neither informed nor on guard. Among the justifications for states ceding power to the federal arrangement: “provide for the common defence … and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.”

Why is it in our interests to recognize citizenship for foreigners who will not “provide for the common defence”? The Constitution was written for us, so it seems fair to ask: What’s in it for us? What’s in it for our Posterity?

It’s also fair to ask, since the whole government ostensibly was set up for us, why such a change was made without consulting us beforehand through our representatives, and asking how we felt about it? For an administration that makes such a big deal out of trying to con people into thinking we live in a “democracy,” why have the representatives of the people been bypassed on such a potentially revealing litmus test of sincerity?

With problems experienced with some foreign nationals let into this country without proper vetting and without ascertaining how their admission further secures the Blessings of Liberty, it’s also fair to wonder how many oaths are just part of a ritual needed to mask hostile loyalties.

While the USCIS policy went into effect July 21, there is still time to provide inputs, including protests, assuming you, as an Oath Keeper, have objections to this change and would like to make your views known. You have a little over a week to do that, by sending your inputs, per the Policy Manual Comment process, to ope.feedback@uscis.dhs.gov. The only thing I would add, assuming your Congressman and Senators are not total wastes of time, is to include them on your correspondence.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: citizenship

1 posted on 07/27/2015 11:10:43 AM PDT by OddLane
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To: OddLane

It doesn’t.


2 posted on 07/27/2015 11:13:11 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: OddLane

Bkmrk.


3 posted on 07/27/2015 11:13:25 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I'm fed up.)
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To: OddLane

Everybody is missing where this is coming from: Muslims! They would have a problem with an oath to defend the United States, and they’re afraid to be rejected when they refuse it.


4 posted on 07/27/2015 11:14:31 AM PDT by winner3000
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To: OddLane

See, Rome.


5 posted on 07/27/2015 11:14:43 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: OddLane

They’re just coming for the Free Stuff, since we don’t have enough welfare cheats already. Wonder if they’ve added the promise to vote Democrat yet.....


6 posted on 07/27/2015 11:16:17 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: OddLane

..because it’s a HANDOUT HAVEN....most illegals get more in “assistance” than citizens. The second highest source of income for MEXICO after OIL.....is US CASH.....


7 posted on 07/27/2015 11:17:21 AM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

Ask not what your country can do for you..Ask what you can do for your country

President John F Kennedy


8 posted on 07/27/2015 11:18:25 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: dfwgator

Bingo
The USA: a nation that once took American citizenship seriously, increasingly occupied by residents.


9 posted on 07/27/2015 11:19:19 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: winner3000

yup.


10 posted on 07/27/2015 11:26:55 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: OddLane

Unless a potential Naturalized Citizen has a Gun to their Head while swearing to the OATH as written, they can simply refuse and go back to where they came if they disagree with any part of that same Oath.

The PC Crap continues to undermine the Foundation of our Republic, which we all know is Intentional.


11 posted on 07/27/2015 11:29:57 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Leave the Gun, take the Cannoli...)
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To: OddLane; Tennessee Nana
Why Does Country Need New Citizens Who Won’t Defend It?

Indeed.

12 posted on 07/27/2015 11:44:58 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Cancer-free since 1988! US out of UN! UN out of US!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
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"Death to America!"


13 posted on 07/27/2015 11:46:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: winner3000
Everybody is missing where this is coming from: Muslims! They would have a problem with an oath to defend the United States, and they’re afraid to be rejected when they refuse it.

Bingo (slapping head)! I should have realized that. I thought it was just more "hate America" stuff. Obie is a Muslim through and through.

14 posted on 07/27/2015 11:57:56 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: OddLane

The only think they have to promise is to vote for corrupt democrats... In exchange they’ll get what blacks get - freebies and empty promises.


15 posted on 07/27/2015 12:11:05 PM PDT by GOPJ (They are not undocumented and they are not immigrants. They are illegal aliens. Lurkinnamloomin)
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To: OddLane

These new immigrants know better than to swear to defend a nation that won’t defend its own borders.


16 posted on 07/27/2015 12:14:59 PM PDT by Yours Truly Johnny Dollar
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To: Tennessee Nana; Liz; stephenjohnbanker; 2ndDivisionVet
RE :”Why Does Country Need New Citizens Who Won’t Defend It?,
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Ask not what your country can do for you..Ask what you can do for your country”

Dems are looking for new Democratic voters, and the VRA requires that they be provided ballots in their ‘own’ language (Spanish,...)..they are looking for voters not soldiers.

The military is a place to change social norms.

“Undocumented soldiers..”

“Gay soldiers...”

“Dont diss the soldiers..”

17 posted on 07/27/2015 1:21:43 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: dfwgator

BTTT.


18 posted on 07/27/2015 2:24:04 PM PDT by OddLane
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