Posted on 07/19/2015 4:55:02 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Microsoft today refreshed its Windows support lifecycle fact sheet to include Windows 10, saying there that it would provide updates to the new OS for 10 years, or until October 2025.
The new information puts to rest one of the biggest remaining questions about Windows 10: what has Microsoft meant since January by describing the policy as running for the supported lifetime of the device when it described the operating system's support timeline?
"The traditional 10-year support lifecycle applies to all SKUs [stock-keeping units]," a Microsoft spokeswoman confirmed in a follow-up email [emphasis added]. SKUs represent the various editions of the OS, such as Windows 10 Home, the primary consumer-grade version, Windows 10 Pro and Windows 10 Enterprise.
The fact sheet now includes a one-line mention that lists "Windows 10, released in July 2015," a departure from the name-only practice that showed "Windows 8" for that operating system but sans a date.
Windows 10 will be supported for five years in "mainstream" support until Oct. 13, 2020, and then another five years in "extended" support until Oct. 14, 2025.
Traditionally, Microsoft has split the decade of OS support into those two categories, offering both security and bug fixes in mainstream but only security updates in extended.
Windows 10, however, will use a new -- and for Microsoft, a radical -- approach where feature and functional, UI (user interface) and UX (user experience) changes will be delivered on a continual cadence to make good on its claim of "Windows as a service." That's a major departure from the past, even from Windows 8, which was updated 12 months after its debut with new features and functionality by Windows 8.1.
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Probably not. 10 is supposed to be much more user friendly than was 8. I was able to do what I wanted on 8, but it was a pain digging down to find where to do it.
I have both my current computers set up to go from 7 to 10. Biggest loss will probably be Microsoft Hearts.
Install Classic Shell and never see Metro again
Glad I’m not the only one in technology who runs into these things.
Went with it within the day my new W8 box arrived. A must have.
Thanks Swordmaker for the ping!
I would agree with your evaluation of the 'brains' behind Win8.
You can still get great refurb pcs that run XP and win7.
just throw a lot of anti-spyware and anti-virus software on it...
I’m still looking for a user-friendly app like Outlook Express to throw on a win7 pc for some oldies..
“Nobody is considering the huge cohort of older people when they make these sweeping changes.”
65 is YOUNG! I am 68.
I have been running Windows 10 since build number 10041 (if l remember correctly).
I’m also a bit older (age wise) than most people.
To EPluribusUnum i just now opened Windows Media Player, so yes their is WMP.
To clearcaseguy age doesn’t keep me from trying new tech things. Don’t believe age matters much. Have Apple devices, Android devices.
What i like about Win 10 is the Security features in the OS.
Getting around all the features is straight forward. Go in Settings (icon) and type in what you’re looking for.
Microsoft will ask you what you like/dislike about Win 10, i’ll give it a 5 star and yes i would recommend it.
You’re lucky. My mother is disabled and her eyesight is going. She’s had a rough life.
Are you one of the Microsoft idiots that was responsible for 8?
I’ve been driving for over 40 years, and driven cars decades older than that. I rent a car I’ve never seen before. Gas pedal on the right, brake in the middle, gearshift in one of two locations (except for the old ‘typewriter’ Dodges - how did that work out for Chrysler?) Turn signal on the left stalk; lights either on a stalk or on the left of the dashboard, key on the right. Steering wheel in front of me, radio to my right.
What company retards product development for a static car layout? Pretty much all the smart ones. (OK, there was that VW with paddle shifters (fine for F1, I suppose), and the keyless Nissan with a start button on the dash - add to the list of stupid innovations.)
When you have an easier switch from Windows to Linux than from Windows to Windows, you (Microsoft) are doing it wrong.
” I am hoping it is back to being enough like Windows 7 that the change won’t be terrible.”
Fundamentally, Windows 10 is really just Windows 8.10. They’ve partially restored the start menu, but have moved half the system controls and all of the Metro-type “apps” (dumbed down cell phone programs like the “Edge” browser) into “windows” instead of tiles. The thing is an absolute nightmare to maintain with the controls split that way. For example, account configuration is split between the control panel and “Metro” windows.
Oh, and it is impossible to control automatic updates/upgrades for consumer versions as Microsoft has explicitly announced that consumer are their official Guinea pigs for updates.
Stick with Windows 7.
Turn the tiles off, install Classic Shell on her Win 8. You get back to the classic XP through 7 style interface.
IF you'd actually typed to search for Device Manager, you would've found... it's still named Device Manager.
Seriously, FReepers, if you haven't used Windows 8 because you don't like the UI, just say you haven't used it. There's absolutely no reason to lie about experiences with the OS. Your recollection of events, fabricated or otherwise, lend doubt to your experience, because Windows 8 is, by and large, exactly like Windows 7 excepting the very obvious change to the Start Menu.
You can still put icons on the desktop. You can still go to Control Panel and find 99% of the configuration tools needed for your system. You can still open event viewer, resource manager, performance monitor, and reliability monitor through Control Panel. Microsoft has been very good about keeping the back office support identical to previous versions to ensure newer versions of the OS can be supported by experienced users.
I swear every time dayglored posts a new article about Windows 10, at least 50% of the thread is dedicated to Microsoft bashers intent on griping about Windows 8 and even some about Windows 7. Get over it, guys and gals. At some point in the future, your version of Windows is going to be obsolete and, frankly, unsafe. If you don't want to buy into Microsoft's changes, either buy a Mac or learn Linux. Either way, Microsoft is not going to change their R&D cycles to accommodate people who aren't willing to make some basic changes to their habits in the name of new technology.
That being said, this new update cycle is a breath of fresh air. This tells me that Microsoft is changing their UI development cycle from static to dynamic. They're settling on the 10 kernel and tweaking as they go. This is exactly how Apple and Google function. Nadella is doing well as the head of the world's biggest OS developer.
Why should I, the customer, have to loose a full evening of my precious time trying to make my computer work in a way that is comprehensible to me?
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Because the suggested fix is relatively easy, and it’s much better than the course you’re taking.
+1!!!
Like I said, entitled old people that think that computers are like their old car from 30 years ago, and therefore need to always look like their old care FOREVER, are the last people tech companies need to cater to.
What happened when your TV lost the UHF and VHF knobs? Did people demand TV companies put them back because that’s the way it’s always been?
“When you have an easier switch from Windows to Linux... “
Go and do so. I’ve seen it multiple times, only to see the same people be just as clueless over even how to even change the wallpaper because it wasn’t in the same exact place as Windows.
It boggles the mind how “hard” windows 8 is for these people to the point where they will gladly scream that they will go and switch to Linux or OSX, where you will have to learn a completely 100% different OS. If they cant figure out the Start Screen, then what makes them think that they will be able to figure out how to burn an ISO for Linux? or configure drivers?
No wonder the left kicks our butts when it comes to utilizing new tech to further their political agenda. Our side is full of people that get off crowing about how utterly clueless they are, and how they keep using outdated OSs because they dont have the ability to learn anything new.
“I swear every time dayglored posts a new article about Windows 10, at least 50% of the thread is dedicated to Microsoft bashers intent on griping about Windows 8 and even some about Windows 7. “
And bragging about how they are still using a Pentium 4 running XP.
It is not wise to fit tour desktop experience to a 3-inch failed phone environment, then make that phone environment your primary world view across all platforms. Microsoft agrees with me and not you. Those who think your way are fired and gone from Microsoft. They went with Microsoft's profits. Have you heard that Microsoft is giving away Windows 10 for free? They have to do this to entice people back. By the way, Apple sales continue to do well and have been steadily growing. The PC market has dwindled because no one wants Windows 8 crud to have to put up with.
I used Device Manager as an example. No one should have to guess and type, when before, you could explore logically.
Now, you can be assaulted with full-time little video windows and have Microsoft, by default, know every keystroke you type in that ever-needed search area. This is a wonderful paradigm, right?
Microsoft did this only to jumpstart apps for its failed phone division (did you hear about the recent Nokia charge-off?). It failed for desktops AND phones (and pads really aren't doing well, either).
So, why are you defending what even Microsoft says is not defensible?
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