I guess us 97ers & 98ers are just very familiar with the "liberal in the classical tradition" discussion.
Some of the newer members must have missed the memo on that. Maybe if they did some reading of the older threads, they wouldn't get so bent out of shape at the reference...
Libertarianism is the path to larger and more intrusive government.
Broken individuals, and broken societies, who have the vote, do not vote for the conservative goals of smaller/limited government.
Sodom and Gomorrah, doesn’t vote responsibly, they vote out of personal greed and want, to give themselves more, not less, and that society of wolves and sheep, leads to a larger, more powerful government.