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Robot kills a VW plant worker
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/07/02/robot-kills-vw-plant-worker/?intcmp=features ^ | July 02, 2015 | John Johnson

Posted on 07/02/2015 12:03:28 PM PDT by StormPrepper

It seems to have happened as technicians were assembling the machine. "When the robot started up, it grabbed the man and thrust him against a metal slab," explains the Local.

It's not clear how big the robot is, but a VW spokesperson says it is not one of the newer lightweight models designed to work alongside humans on the production line.

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To: mrsmith
A foolproof robot would, if it could even be built, be a very, very expensive machine.

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.

- Douglas Adams, "Mostly Harmless"

21 posted on 07/02/2015 12:55:18 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: StormPrepper

I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.


22 posted on 07/02/2015 12:55:19 PM PDT by chrisser (This space for rent.)
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To: StormPrepper

My skill saw attacked me a couple of times lucky for me i was wearing jeans it got my leg good but it choked on the knee part of my levis


23 posted on 07/02/2015 1:09:27 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: al baby
"My skill saw attacked me a couple of times lucky for me i was wearing jeans it got my leg good but it choked on the knee part of my levis."

It just needs more power


24 posted on 07/02/2015 1:31:44 PM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: StormPrepper

25 posted on 07/02/2015 1:32:00 PM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: StormPrepper

LOL!!!!


26 posted on 07/02/2015 1:47:24 PM PDT by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: ADemocratNoMore

Very foolish to not wear a helmet on that particular exercise.


27 posted on 07/02/2015 1:51:25 PM PDT by freepersup (Patrolling the waters off Free Republic one dhow at a time.)
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To: mrsmith

At one point in my life I had to verify welds done by robots at a GM plant. I’d have to stand next to the units and make sure they were doing the welds they were supposed to do. Use to make me real nervous. Of course not as nervousness as standing next to a big UAW worker doing welds.


28 posted on 07/02/2015 2:08:28 PM PDT by OC_Steve
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To: mrsmith
I’ve worked with industrial robots. As with ALL machines- even the simplest- you have to follow the rules or they will damage you.

It seems to have happened as technicians were assembling the machine. "When the robot started up, it grabbed the man and thrust him against a metal slab,"… “The 21-year-old man, who was working within the metal safety cage confining the robot, later died from the accident.

I would note this was not a “robot” as in a free roaming or free “thinking” robot out of a sci-fi movie. From what I understand it was basically a machine designed to work, grab and move parts inside of a caged area, i.e. an area not intended for humans to be inside of while the “robot” was working.

Sounds to me a perhaps the contractor and or the plant managers were not following standard “lock out / tag out” procedures. There is no way that they should have energized the equipment while a worker was still inside the caged area.

29 posted on 07/02/2015 2:10:51 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA

From my factory tech years I can tell you there are great rewards for breaking safety rules... if you get away with it. Horrible penalties if you don’t.
Industrial robots are rightly called robots. They follow a program no matter what.
In my day nearly all of them were modified welding or material-moving robots and were way over-powered for their mission. I’ve seen one of the power and the size of a forklift whose sole job was to pick up 6 stamp-sized leaflets and move them 12 inches LOL!


30 posted on 07/02/2015 2:28:03 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: StormPrepper

31 posted on 07/02/2015 2:59:11 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: StormPrepper
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32 posted on 07/02/2015 3:06:02 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: StormPrepper
Will we necessarily know when retail personnel have been replaced by robots?

Something I've noticed about big business corporate culture is the fear of the unknown. One way they combat this is to give all of their retail personnel a script which they are required to regurgitate at the customer:

Good morning. How are you doing today?

How can I help you?

Have a great day.

Lately I've been creeped out by the spooky similarity I get wherever I shop as if everyone is reading from the same script provided by the same consultants from the same focus group analyses.

When these folks are kicked to the curb and replaced by replicants, we might not even know the difference.

33 posted on 07/02/2015 4:56:22 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

I don’t know about all that but I have a cutting torch and will travel.


34 posted on 07/02/2015 6:11:37 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: StormPrepper

Future (-near) scene in your friendly hamburger franchise outlet:

ROBOT: Would you like fries with that?
CUSTOMER: No thank you, no fries!
ROBOT: You must order fries mit that!
CUSTOMER: I don’t want fries!
ROBOT: I KILL YOU!


35 posted on 07/02/2015 6:24:23 PM PDT by Ventilator on
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To: StormPrepper

Dreadful. RIP.


36 posted on 07/02/2015 10:06:18 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
Just this once, I shall refer you to user bender2.

Mr Groening (of Simpsons fame), floated such an idea sometime in the middle of 2012...

37 posted on 07/03/2015 1:55:30 AM PDT by __rvx86 (The time for civility among conservatives is long over. We must fight the Left on their level.)
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To: mrsmith
From my factory tech years I can tell you there are great rewards for breaking safety rules... if you get away with it. Horrible penalties if you don’t.

Sadly that is probably all true in all too many factories. And even in those that put safety as a priority - it only takes one stupid mistake. : (

Fortunately my present employer; a manufacturer making OEM parts in PA and with a plant in NC, we as a company and our parent company headquartered in the UK are all about safety – perhaps to the point of it being “overkill” IMO sometimes, but then OTOH, not really a waste of time either. Of course we do it in part to maintain our ISO certification and to keep our workers comp claims down and thus our overhead costs and insurance rates down and our profitability up and also to reduce personal injury (STD and LTD) claims resulting from non-work related lost time accidents and health insurance claims.

Every newly hired employee including administrative (office) employees, outside sales reps, even our executives and also all our agency temps and contractors – all of them without exception have to attend a full day of safety training within their first week of hire and everyone without exception has to attend at least one monthly safety training and we are actually increasing the number of hours per quarter of safety training required for all employees and tracking attendance. Our quarterly bonuses even depend in part on monthly safety training attendance/participation of no less than 97%. Less than 97% participation during any quarter means we don’t get 50% of our quarterly bonus (the other 50% is based on quality /customer satisfaction / returns for defective products.) Our annual bonus is based on meeting operating profit goals but also has a tie in to the safety and quality indexes as well.

Those monthly safety trainings vary to the extent of what is covered but not necessarily the topic. For instance, while employees who work on the plant floor may be given more intensive training on lock out / tag out procedures or fork lift safety, HAZMAT training, how to read material safety data sheets (MSDS), emergency response and emergency first aid, etc., - all employees, even those not working on the plant floor get at least some training on those topics.

As an administrative person (I am the company’s payroll and HRIS manager), for instance, a few months ago I had to take a forklift safety training; that training not being focused as for someone operating a forklift or working around them on a daily basis, but as a “pedestrian” as I and others do have to sometimes walk through the plant where forklifts operate – I sometimes have to recalibrate or clean time clocks in manufacturing areas or go to meetings in offices of the plant managers and supervisors and walk through production areas to get there. We also get training on proper PPE – even as I am not a manufacturing employee, when I walk through certain areas of the plant I have to wear safety glasses and or steel toed safety shoes (company issued and or paid for) and have to obey the posted signs that warn that certain areas are completely off limit to all personnel except those with authorized access.

Other recent monthly safety topics covered topics like severe weather events (tornado warnings for instance and where to shelter – and we had one just this week), winter weather hazards, HAZMAT situations, fire evacuations, including a mandatory yearly “hands on” fire extinguisher training for all employees, ergonomics and proper lifting techniques, basic first aid with a focus on procedures – what to do, who to call and even what not to do and other safety topics, not only for at work but also for safety at home - topics like the dangers of texting while driving, the proper use of ladders and step ladders, basic electrical safety, safe storage and handling of household chemicals, how to avoid heat stroke and what to do if someone has it, etc. Sometimes the safety training requires us to watch one of those cheesy “Safety Videos” - some of them very graphic or very “dry” and some of them even unintentionally funny because they are so “cheesy”. But some of them are very good and thought provoking.

One of the more light hearted but yet effective was what us office/admin folks got last December for our monthly safety training. The training involved watching selected clips from the movie “National Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation” and after watching, we were asked to list all the “unsafe” things we saw Clark Griwswald doing in the clips. While it was very funny, the training did make some good points on things like electrical and ladder safety, and how not to carve a turkey - LOL!

Our VP of Operations and our Plant Managers and supervisors sometimes purposely walk through the plant in areas that require the use of safety glasses and not wearing them to see if anyone calls them out on it, and anyone who does, they give them a $50 gift card and they get recognition on the company’s safety bulletin boards. The same goes for any employee who identifies a safety hazard or a worker working in an unsafe manner.

And I got one of those gift cards and recognition a couple of months ago when I was walking through the plant on my way to a meeting and saw several areas of oil/grease on the walkway area near the loading dock left by some rigging contractors who were bringing in and installing some new equipment, probably grease leaking from one of their forklifts/hoists. I got several of those “caution” slippery floor tent signs from the nearest safety station and placed them over the greasy areas and called the Safety Manager to alert him to the condition, for him to get it properly cleaned up – and I stayed there until he got there to take over to make sure people did not walk on, slip and fall on the grease. I also had to file on our safety database, a “near miss” report, detailing the hazard I identified and then the Safety Department commented on what steps needed to be put in place to prevent the same potential hazard from occurring in the future – in this case - inspecting a contractor’s forklifts or other equipment for oil or grease leaks before allowing them into our plant – the same sort of daily inspection we require for our own equipment : )

We also have a policy that any employee is allowed to identify a potential unsafe or hazardous condition, even to the point of shutting down a production line without any fear of retribution even if they end up being wrong about the hazard. Workers who violate safety instructions or fail to follow SOP’s can be written up and can and will be terminated for repeated violations.

While we typically will work to “re-train” a worker who violates a safety or SOP, we did terminate someone in the last year who had been written up on several occasions for repeatedly not following SOP’s and for violating safety procedures and suffered an injury as a result. That employee FWIW was also required to undergo a mandatory post accident drug and alcohol test and failed – tested positive for both alcohol and marijuana. He was suspended without pay and sent to our EAP for counseling and weekly drug testing with the caveat that if he complied and stayed “clean” over the next 30 days, he would be reinstated but subject to monthly testing for the next year, but since he failed to comply – didn’t go to counseling and failed follow up testing, he was terminated and FWIW, when he filed an unemployment claim, PA upheld that it was a rightful termination for cause on our part and denied him unemployment benefits. And his worker’s comp claim was also denied because we proved he had violated SOP’s.

And we are pretty strict with the lock out /tag out procedures to the point of that the tag has to have the photo ID of the person responsible for placing and removing it. I know this because they have to come to the HR office to get the photo ID printed out from our ID card system to be placed on the tag.

FWIW - earlier this year we had a long time employee (over 20 years), a maintenance mechanic turn in his notice as he had found a job with another manufacturer that was much closer to his home and IIRC for slightly more money. We hated to lose him as he was a very good and dependable worker and very well liked and we even made him a counter offer, but he declined because while we offered to match his offer in terms of hourly rate of pay, we couldn’t give him the 1st shift hours and less time being on the on-call rotation and less mandatory OT and more flexibly in hours that he wanted.

But after working for his new employer for only three weeks, he quit, leaving without notice and called our plant manger asking if he could come back. He quit – walked off that new job because of what he saw as a complete disregard for safety by the management and his fellow workers and very unsafe conditions including not using proper tag out / lock out procedures when working on high voltage equipment. He felt the conditions at that plant were so unsafe that it wasn’t worth risking his injury or death no matter the pay and better hours and shorter commute. And not long after he left, that manufacture had a near fatal electrocution injury and I’m sure OSHA and their Worker’s Comp insurance carrier is all over them like “white on rice”- something we try to avoid by doing everything we can to not have work place injuries or deaths in the first place.

Unfortunately we couldn’t give him his old job back as it had already been filled but he was offered a job as a 3rd shift lathe operator at an hourly rate just slightly below what he had been making, but he took it and seems happy to be back. We reinstated him so as to let him keep his seniority based on his original hire date and therefore he doesn’t have to wait a year before applying for another position in the company.

38 posted on 07/03/2015 9:20:50 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: MD Expat in PA

Yeah sounds like one place I worked. It’s ‘overkill’ but a corporation hasn’t any better choice as maintaining control is so difficult.

In such a corporate sytem the two big problems I saw were:
A. The machinery was not designed for diagnosis within the rules.
Since the corporation won’t pay for exceptional techs that can be trusted to safely “break the rules” the machinery needs to be modified so the information the tech needs can be acquired within the rules. But modifications are a legal/administrative nightmare.
B. The system makes for conflict between the tech and Production. Honestly 90% of downtime is caused by something the production supervisor could tell the tech about! But it would make him/her look bad ‘in the system’.

Years ago a tech I had was killed
I’d once warned him to use his lockout instead of relying on isolating the dryer he was cleaning by pushing an off button on the main control.
A few months after I left he’d gone back to his old ways. Someone turned on the button, the computer sent 300 pounds of linen to the dryer, dumped it on him, started it up and roasted him.
Utterly senseless tragedy.


39 posted on 07/03/2015 12:17:50 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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