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For Southern rockers and country singers, the Confederate flag is an uncomfortable heritage
National Post ^ | June 30, 2015 | Sarah Boesveld

Posted on 06/30/2015 8:31:21 AM PDT by rickmichaels

Lee Bains III was 12 when he went with his dad to his very first rock show outside of Birmingham, Ala.

Like a lot of kids from Alabama, the lead singer of Birmingham-based rock band Lee Bains III & The Glory Fires had been listening to Lynyrd Skynyrd with his father since the time he could talk. The Southern rock sound, as it has come to be known, signified for the senior Bains an exciting political shift in his home state: The Jim Crow era was over, schools and restaurants de-segregated, black and white southerners were interacting in ways they never had.

Bains’s dad even worked for Bill Baxley, Alabama’s attorney general, who had re-opened the 16th Street Baptist Church Bombing case, a racist attack in which four black girls were killed. When the Klan called him an “honorary n—-r,” Baxley famously replied on official letterhead: “My response to your letter of February 19, 1976, is — kiss my ass.”

So when the young Skynyrd fan entered Oak Mountain Ampitheatre for the very first time, his “head was spinning.”

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To: rickmichaels

Could have fooled me....
Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers - Rebels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoV-awiHpuM


21 posted on 06/30/2015 8:57:37 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Aquamarine

Nothing intelligent, I’m sure.


22 posted on 06/30/2015 8:58:53 AM PDT by Salamander (We're ALL Dixie, now.)
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To: rickmichaels

IRRC Shania Twain has become rather wealthy thanks to the (US) dollars of folks who respect the Stars & Bars.Assuming that she,too,is now unconformable with her association with that flag will she be giving the money back?


23 posted on 06/30/2015 9:03:33 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Secession;It's The Only Answer)
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To: Kit cat

The goal is to wipe out history and replace it with a new version. They are well in their way. Several generations are too dumb to know what’s happening.


24 posted on 06/30/2015 9:05:19 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Aquamarine
What say the Dixie Chicks?

Last I heard they were ashamed of being bipeds.

25 posted on 06/30/2015 9:06:40 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Secession;It's The Only Answer)
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To: Salamander

Or coherent.

CC


26 posted on 06/30/2015 9:08:51 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Sufficient unto the day are the troubles therof)
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To: Salamander
And Ronny is spinning in his grave.
27 posted on 06/30/2015 9:09:28 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: rickmichaels

Why isn’t MARTIN LUTHER KING (street/ave/blvd) and uncomfortable heritage for negroes ?

More blacks are killed on any street named after MLK than any where else.


28 posted on 06/30/2015 9:11:07 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Celtic Conservative; Gay State Conservative

LOL


29 posted on 06/30/2015 9:16:48 AM PDT by Salamander (We're ALL Dixie, now.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I bet.


30 posted on 06/30/2015 9:17:19 AM PDT by Salamander (We're ALL Dixie, now.)
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To: rickmichaels

When I was a Kid going to Disneyland, they sold Confederate Soldier Hats, with the Battle Flag proudly displayed on top.

To be fair, they sold Union Soldier Hats as well.


31 posted on 06/30/2015 9:20:17 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Erections have Consequences, just ask Obama's Parents. Oh wait, they're Dead.)
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To: rickmichaels
https://twitter.com/sarahboesveld Sarah Boesveld ‏@sarahboesveld 1h1 hour ago ...... Sarah let's us know that 14% of all Ontarians have had sex in a canoe. And they do it `doggie style' so they can both watch hockey. I know this to be true because I read it here on FR chat. Happy Canada day to all you Canadians!
32 posted on 06/30/2015 9:20:51 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Steely Tom

In the Movie Version of the Dukes of Hazzard, the Duke Boys end up in Atlanta and a group of Blacks surround the General Lee staring at the Battle Flag painted on the Roof.

As portrayed, the Duke Boys were perplexed by the anger of the Blacks. At least that’s how I remember the Scene.

Truth be told, the Movie was so bad, I’ve only seen snippets here and there when they Play it on Spike TV.

If anyone has seen the Auto Trader Ads featuring the General Lee, there is no Confederate Flag on the Roof.
Political Correctness long before today’s stupidity.


33 posted on 06/30/2015 9:33:18 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Erections have Consequences, just ask Obama's Parents. Oh wait, they're Dead.)
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To: rickmichaels

THE TRUTH ABOUT CONFEDERATE HISTORY
— And It’s Not What You’ve Been Taught
“Contrarily, Confederate General Robert E. Lee freed his slaves (which he never purchased – they were inherited) in 1862!!! Lee freed his slaves several years before the war was over, and considerably earlier than his Northern counterparts. And during the fierce early days of the war when the South was obliterating the Yankee armies!”
Source: America’s Freedom Fighters
MARCH 13, 2015
BY DEAN JAMES

History books, the media, the school systems, etc abound in falsehoods and inaccuracies of Confederate and Southern history. This fact sheet will help to clarify and dispel some of these rampant inaccuracies.
MYTH  –   The War of 1861 – 1865 was fought over slavery.
FACT  –   Terribly untrue. The North fought the war over money. Plain and simple. When the South started Secession, Lincoln was asked, “Why not let the South go in peace?” To which he replied, “I can’t let them go. Who would pay for the government?” Sensing total financial ruin for the North, Lincoln waged war on the South. The South fought the War to repel Northern aggression and invasion. Lincoln never had the heart-massaging idea to use “Slavery” as the reason until more than a year after the shooting started when Frederick Douglas suggested it as a way to get sympathy for the bloodshed. 

MYTH  –   Only Southerners owned slaves.
 
FACT  –   Entirely untrue. Many Northern civilians owned slaves. Prior to, during and even after the War Of Northern Aggression.
Surprisingly, to many history impaired individuals, most Union Generals and staff had slaves to serve them! William T. Sherman had many slaves that served him until well after the war was over and did not free them until late in 1865.
U.S. Grant also had several slaves, who were only freed after the 13th amendment in December of 1865. When asked why he didn’t free his slaves earlier, Grant stated “Good help is so hard to come by these days.”
Contrarily, Confederate General Robert E. Lee freed his slaves (which he never purchased – they were inherited) in 1862!!! Lee freed his slaves several years before the war was over, and considerably earlier than his Northern counterparts. And during the fierce early days of the war when the South was obliterating the Yankee armies!

MYTH  –   The Confederate Battle Flag was flown on slave ships.
 
FACT  –   NONE of the flags of the Confederacy or Southern Nation ever flew over a slave ship. Nor did the South own or operate any slaves ships. The English, the Dutch and the Portuguese brought slaves to this country, not the Southern Nation.
BUT, even more monumental, it is also very important to know and understand that Federal, Yankee, Union ships brought slaves to America! These ships were from the New England states, and their hypocrisy is atrocious.
These Federals were ones that ended up crying the loudest about slavery. But without their ships, many of the slaves would have never arrived here. They made countless fortunes on the delivery of slaves as well as the products made from raw materials such as cotton and tobacco in the South.
This is the problem with Yankee history History is overwhelmingly portrayed incorrectly by most of the Federal & Yankee books and media.

MYTH  –   The Confederate Battle Flag represented the Southern Nation.
 
FACT  –   Not true. While the Southern Battle flag was carried into battle, the Southern Nation had 3 different National flags during the course of the war.
The First National flag was changed due to a resemblance of the US flag.
The Second National flag was subsequently modified due to the similarity to a flag of truce.
The Third National flag was the adopted flag of the Confederacy.
The Confederate Battle Flag was never a National Flag of the Confederacy. It was carried into battle by several armies such as the Army Of Northen Virginia and the Army of Tennessee. Was also used as a Naval Jack by the Confederate Navy.

MYTH  –   The Confederate Battle Flag is known as the “Stars & Bars”.
 
FACT  –   A common misconception. The First National Confederate Flag is correctly known as the “Stars & Bars”. The Confederate Battle Flag is known as the “Southern Cross”.

MYTH  –   The Confederate Battle Flag represents racism today.
 
FACT  –   The Confederate Battle Flag today finds itself in the center of much controversy and hoopla going on in several states. The cry to take this flag down is unjustified. It is very important to keep in mind that the Confederate Battle Flag was simply just that. A battle flag. It was never even a National flag, so how could it have flown over a slave nation or represented slavery or racism? This myth is continued by lack of education and ignorance. Those that vilify the Confederate Battle Flag are very confused about history and have jumped upon a bandwagon with loose wheels.

MYTH  –   The United States Flag represented freedom.
 
FACT  –   No chance. The US flag flew over a slave nation for over 85 years! The North tolerated slavery and acknowledged it as a Division Of Labor. The North made a vast fortune on slavery and it’s commodities. It wasn’t until the South decided to leave the Union that the North objected. The North knew it could not survive without the Southern money. That is the true definition of hypocrisy.

MYTH  –   Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.
 
FACT  –   While Lincoln has went down in history as the Great Emancipator, many would not care to hear his real thoughts on people of color. Martyred President Abraham Lincoln was fervently making plans to send all freed slaves to the jungles of Central America once the war was over. Knowing that African society would never allow the slaves to return back to Africa, Lincoln also did not want the slaves in the US. He thought the jungles of Central America would be the best solution and conducive to the freed slaves best interest. The only thing that kept this from happening, was his assassination.

MYTH  –   The South revered slavery.
 
FACT  –   A very interesting fact on slavery is that at the time the War of 1861 -1865 officially commenced, the Southern States were actually in the process of freeing all slaves in the South. Russia had freed it’s servants in 1859, and the South took great note of this. Had military intervention not been forced upon the South, a very different America would have been realized then as well as now.

MYTH  –   The Confederate Army was comprised of rich slave owners.
 
FACT  –   Very far from true. The vast majority of soldiers in the Confederate Army were simple men of meager income. Most of which were hard working farmers and common men. Then, as now, very few rich men ever fight a war.

MYTH  –   Only the North had men of color in their ranks.
 
FACT  –   Quite simply a major falsehood of history. Many blacks, both free and of their own will, joined the Confederate Army to fight for their beloved Southern home. Additionally, men of other ethnic extraction fought as well. Oriental, Mexican & Spanish men as well as Native American Indians fought with pride for the South.
Today, many men of color are members in the heritage group SCV – Sons Of Confederate Veterans. These men of color and pride rejoice in their heritage. The continued attacks on the Southern Nation, The Confederacy, and her symbols are a terrible outrage to these fine people. These attacks should be denounced with as much fervor as those who denounce the South.

MYTH  –   The Confederate Flags are an authorized symbol of Aryan, KKK and hate groups.
 
FACT  –   Quite the contrary. These despicable organizations such as the KKK and Aryans have taken a hallowed piece of history, and have plagued good Southern folks and the memories of fine Confederate Soldiers that fought under the flag with their perverse agenda. IN NO WAY does the Confederate Flag represent hate or violence. Heritage groups such as the SCV battle daily the damage done to a proud nation by these hate groups. The SCV denounces all hate groups, and pridefully boast HERITAGE – NOT HATE.

MYTH  –   The SCV – Sons Of Confederate Veterans are a racist, hate group.
 
FACT  –   This is a blatant attack on one of the finest heritage groups ever. The SCV – Sons Of Confederate Veterans are a historical, patriotic and non-political organization comprised of descendants of Confederate Soldiers and sailors dedicated to insuring that a true history of the 1861 -1865 period is preserved and presented to the public. The SCV continues to educate the public of the memory and reputation of the Confederate soldier as well as the motives for his suffering and sacrifice.
The SCV – Sons Of Confederate Veterans are in NO WAY affiliated with, nor does it recognize or condone the terrible legacy of hate groups such as the KKK. 
This article originally appeared at http://www.rulen.com/


34 posted on 06/30/2015 9:38:43 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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To: Dick Bachert

When the South started Secession, Lincoln was asked, “Why not let the South go in peace?” To which he replied, “I can’t let them go. Who would pay for the government?”

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Since you post that this is a fact, when and to whom was it said? Where is it documented?

Yes, I’m calling BS.


35 posted on 06/30/2015 10:10:20 AM PDT by dmz
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To: rickmichaels

Don’t need no half stepping rockers.


36 posted on 06/30/2015 10:29:37 AM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: dmz

Here’s but ONE source. Given who won the aggressive INVASION of the South, I’m amazed that it hasn’t been chucked down the Orwellian memory hole.

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=A0LEVvpK1ZJVlAcARMMnnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTEzaDk2YTZmBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDRkZHRTAyXzEEc2VjA3Ny?qid=20100130215813AAtpUFC&p=lincoln%20why%20not%20let%20the%20south%20go


37 posted on 06/30/2015 10:44:15 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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To: All

BFL


38 posted on 06/30/2015 10:51:19 AM PDT by day10 (You'll get nothing and like it!)
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To: Dick Bachert

“Don’t believe everything you read on the Internet.”
—Abraham Lincoln


39 posted on 06/30/2015 11:30:41 AM PDT by drjimmy
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To: Salamander

LOL

most assuredly....


40 posted on 06/30/2015 11:40:39 AM PDT by QualityMan (Don't Tread on Me)
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