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Why We're Talking About Flags Instead of Gun Control
Slate ^ | 6-24-2015 | Jessica Winter

Posted on 06/25/2015 2:18:00 PM PDT by Citizen Zed

Last weekend, the world saw white supremacist and mass murderer Dylann Roof posing stone-faced with Confederate flags and license plates. Sometime after the pictures were taken, Roof allegedly shot dead nine parishioners at a historically black church in Charleston, South Carolina, using a legally acquired 45-caliber Glock handgun after passing a background check.

On Monday, South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley announced that the Confederate flag would be removed from State House grounds, calling it “a deeply offensive symbol of a brutally offensive past.” In the space of 24 hours, Amazon, eBay, Etsy, and Walmart all stopped selling products featuring the Confederate banner.

Google stated Tuesday that it would scrub the flag from ads and Google Shopping. Several flag makers say they will stop manufacturing the flag.

Today, the governor of Alabama has ordered the removal of the flag from state Capitol grounds.

Almost literally overnight, the chimera of consensus around the Confederate flag as a divisive but misunderstood symbol of “heritage” or “Southern pride” fell away, revealing the banner for what it is. The obscenity of the flag and the murderous racism it represents have dominated a national conversation about the American way of hate and violence for all the right reasons.

The flag has also dominated the conversation for a single wrong reason, which is that most Americans have given up on achieving meaningful gun control in their lifetimes or in their grandchildren’s lifetimes.

Up to and including the December 2012 mass shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, Americans could be certain that every time a crazed man emptied a weapon inside a church or movie theater or first-grade classroom, the aftermath would produce a national conversation—just like the one we’ve been having about Confederate symbolism—about strengthening America’s gun control laws.

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Because the president used the N word?

1 posted on 06/25/2015 2:18:00 PM PDT by Citizen Zed
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How about the FACT that every one of these spree shooters is wacked out on the SSRI dope? And it has a homicide/suicide warning on the label?

Might be a place to start.


2 posted on 06/25/2015 2:21:33 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Citizen Zed

Hey, Jessica: You want to disarm the American people? Then I suggest you lead the confiscations. In person. Your failure to do just that shows you are nothing but a loud-mouthed, bloviating coward.


3 posted on 06/25/2015 2:23:27 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Citizen Zed
There are many things we're not talking about that we should.  photo J.Woods.jpg
4 posted on 06/25/2015 2:23:56 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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Why are we not talking about a kid at some folks knew had serious problems...instead of blacks and guns?

Why aren't we talking about Chicago....the black on black murder capitol of the world?

5 posted on 06/25/2015 2:25:20 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (s)
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To: Citizen Zed

This whole administration has been one long magic show with stuffed sleeves, two way mirrors and surprises hidden from view behind media curtains. It makes Penn and Teller look like beginners.


6 posted on 06/25/2015 2:26:04 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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Because the president used the N word?

NO because we have been taken over by Communists:

According to Frank Lunt...no body cares....no one will do anything to stop these very racist Negros who have cowed the nation with their tantrums.

7 posted on 06/25/2015 2:26:13 PM PDT by yoe
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To: Citizen Zed

Why is gun control not being discussed? Because yet again a mass murder occurs in a GUN FREE ZONE, and most Americans are catching onto that fact. This is NOT a “gun control” discussion the left or MSM (redundant) wants, so we are not going to have it!


8 posted on 06/25/2015 2:26:13 PM PDT by piytar (Good will be called evil and Evil will be called good.)
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To: gorush

Have a deep respect for Woods. Great actor. Great patriot.


9 posted on 06/25/2015 2:26:23 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (s)
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To: Citizen Zed

There is no difference between liberals erasing history here and ISIS erasing history in the Middle East.


10 posted on 06/25/2015 2:28:31 PM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Shocked at their success at censoring the Confederate flag,
Liberals are emboldened and think they can transform this flag uncontrolled emtion into stripping away at the Second Amendment. However, most gun owners wont be such pushovers.


11 posted on 06/25/2015 2:29:15 PM PDT by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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Supremist?? Just a copycat. He had to pick a target....a controversial target so he could make the news. Not really a supremist...just a sicko.


12 posted on 06/25/2015 2:30:05 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (s)
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To: aomagrat

You’re absolutely right!!


13 posted on 06/25/2015 2:30:44 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (s)
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To: Sasparilla

And this is the most dangerous part. Now, they *will* try. Will our “representatives” help them then, too?


14 posted on 06/25/2015 2:33:21 PM PDT by KGeorge (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground)
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To: Citizen Zed
using a legally acquired 45-caliber Glock handgun after passing a background check.

I thought his father gave him the gun.

15 posted on 06/25/2015 2:34:26 PM PDT by Smittie (Just like an alien, I'm a stranger in a strange land)
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To: Citizen Zed
Last weekend, the world saw white supremacist and mass murderer Dylann Roof posing stone-faced with Confederate flags and license plates.

Oh, you mean this guy?



Guess we need to ban the burning of the American flag, too, right?
16 posted on 06/25/2015 2:34:50 PM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: DesertRhino

What meds do ya think the VA puts Vets on? Yep. SSRI’s.


17 posted on 06/25/2015 2:34:55 PM PDT by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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I thought his father gave him the gun.

That's the report that I heard, too.
18 posted on 06/25/2015 2:35:40 PM PDT by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: Citizen Zed

If you talk about gun control or flag banning it is the same, they are both discussions of restricting freedoms.


19 posted on 06/25/2015 2:41:16 PM PDT by GregoTX (Remember the Alamo)
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To: Smittie

His parents gave him some money for his birthday... he used it to get a gun.


20 posted on 06/25/2015 2:42:52 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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