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Star Wars sucks. There, we said it.
Macleans ^ | June 2015 | Jaime Weinman

Posted on 06/21/2015 1:57:43 PM PDT by OddLane

One day in the 1970s, George Lucas screened a rough cut of his new movie, Star Wars, for his influential Hollywood friends. And almost none of them liked it. The plot seemed incomprehensible, the made-up fantasy names absurd. Director Brian De Palma, who had just had a big hit with Carrie, made fun of everything about the film, including Princess Leia’s hairstyle: “Hey, George, what were those Danish rolls doing in the princess’s ears?”

Almost 40 years later, De Palma is mostly making low-budget movies, and the most-anticipated film of the year is Star Wars: The Force Awakens, the first Star Wars movie since Lucas sold the franchise to Disney. In June, Empire magazine published its “500 greatest films of all time” list, chosen by a poll of 250,000 readers; the winner was the sequel, The Empire Strikes Back, with the original also making the Top 10. You won’t hear people today making fun of Leia’s hair or Luke Skywalker’s disco haircut.

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TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: duplicate; hollywood; searchworks; starwars
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1 posted on 06/21/2015 1:57:43 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: OddLane

I saw this already posted. Macleans sucks and so does Jaime Weinman. There, I said it.


2 posted on 06/21/2015 1:59:31 PM PDT by webheart (We are all pretty much living in a fiction.)
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I took a look at the takes up....terrible actors...but then so weren’t the first ones in the Star Wars movies.


3 posted on 06/21/2015 2:04:31 PM PDT by caww
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To: OddLane

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3302299/posts


4 posted on 06/21/2015 2:07:49 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Claire Wolfe should check her watch. It's time.)
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To: OddLane

“Star Wars sucks”

Always thought so. It wouldn’t even have made a good short story for a 1930s pulp science fiction magazine.


5 posted on 06/21/2015 2:08:57 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: webheart
I thought I was the only one who thought Star Wars, all of them, stank on ice.

Thin, nonsensical plots, silly, poorly written dialog, dozens of scenes and compositions ripped off from other movies.

I'll watch anything once. It's the question of whether I'll watch it twice. The Star Wars franchise doesn't make the cut.

6 posted on 06/21/2015 2:15:13 PM PDT by jonascord (It's sarcasm unless otherwise noted...)
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To: caww

Good and in some cases great (Sir Alec Guinness and James Earl Jones) actors in the first three (episodes 3, 4, and 5) and some pretty good to lousy actors in the others. But all were mouthing comic book dialog that was an insult to comic books. The good and great actors were able to handle it all without a problem. But some of them were laughably bad. Hopefully Disney didn’t let Lucas get near the script except maybe to nod approval.


7 posted on 06/21/2015 2:24:54 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: OddLane

SW was fun, the special effects were, at the time, way ahead of Star Trek TOS/Space 1999, etc., but now we look back and laugh at how weak they were. But, back in the day, it rocked the house.


8 posted on 06/21/2015 2:36:29 PM PDT by W. (Animals are much stupider since Noah's Ark, because of inbreeding.--Oglaf)
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To: OddLane

I do not think the thre original movies are as bad as this guy says, but NONE of them make my list of the 10 best movies of all time.


9 posted on 06/21/2015 2:39:46 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blow smoke up MY a-- and tell me it's raining...)
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To: OddLane

Ouch. George Lucas will be crying all the way to the bank.


10 posted on 06/21/2015 2:43:42 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: W.

1999 had the effects and a decent idea of an arc in the first season. The 2nd is when it went downhill.


11 posted on 06/21/2015 2:44:53 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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It was a fun show. Barb Bain helped the draw.
12 posted on 06/21/2015 2:56:08 PM PDT by W. (Animals are much stupider since Noah's Ark, because of inbreeding.--Oglaf)
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To: webheart

Star Wars was bad...it had real possibilities, but when I first saw it in 1977 (at age 15) I thought it was a little too immature and that opinion has not changed. The story line wasn’t half bad and overall, it could have been a great Sci-Fi thriller if those androids were a little less prominent. The princess Lay-Easy could have been eliminated (I don’t believe in royalty).

The overall concept was decent, but it was really kids movie and the entire series is intended for a younger audience.


13 posted on 06/21/2015 2:56:52 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: katana
Oh the script for actors lines was horrible...I fully agree...and as much with Jones and Guiness playing their roles well...but Carrie and Solo stunk! Still do.

I saw the “gathering” of former star actors and couldn't believe how utterly dumpy Carrie looked and sounded. Mu gosh her hair was greasy and unmanaged...just awful.

14 posted on 06/21/2015 2:59:21 PM PDT by caww
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To: OddLane

Ah, BS. The original was and still is a hell of a lot of fun, the second one was a terrific raising-of-the-stakes story, and the third did an admirable job of tying together the loose threads.

The prequels, though.....yeah, they suck.


15 posted on 06/21/2015 3:00:37 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: W.

It had an appeal definitely. Loved it as a kid.

Met Landau at a Dragoncon a few years ago. Great guy and his panel drew a packed large room.


16 posted on 06/21/2015 3:02:47 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: OddLane
I remember "Star Wars" being put out as a reaction to all the negativity of the times (Nixon resigning, Vietnam falling, the killing field of Cambodia, Stagflation, the Carter Presidency), as well as the "gritty, unsentimental" films of the era- it was an old-fashioned swashbuckler disguised as a sci-fi flick.

Ironic that, in the 2000's, George Lucas tried to politicize the Star Wars franchise by making Palpatine into his own opinion of George W. Bush.

17 posted on 06/21/2015 3:05:35 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Ob)
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To: OddLane

When I saw Star Wars IV (the original), as an SF aficionado, I was impressed by the first ‘dirty’ space ship I had ever seen in a movie. I also drove my poor 4-banger Datsun like a space fighter home to the college dorm (like an idiot!)


18 posted on 06/21/2015 3:38:39 PM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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FYI, on the same view of having dirty spaceships, anyone having an out-gassing incident when it affects Lord Vader or The Emperor, is just asking for a throat squeeze of death! Just saying!


19 posted on 06/21/2015 3:43:33 PM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: caww

I think she’s bipolar.


20 posted on 06/21/2015 4:19:42 PM PDT by EEGator
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