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Hidden secrets of 1491 world map revealed via multispectral imaging
Phys.Org ^ | 06-12-2015 | Mike Cummings

Posted on 06/12/2015 10:43:35 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

Very cool. Having done a little navigation myself I am simply astounded at that feat of seamanship - these guys had no means of determining longitude and they still managed to end up pretty much where they intended. Once might be accident, twice luck, but four times is just amazing.


21 posted on 06/12/2015 11:07:38 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

They used a knotted rope to determine their speed at any given moment and so were able to roughly calculate distance gone.....................


22 posted on 06/12/2015 11:11:21 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: Red Badger

A tidal wave or earthquake would make this island disappear again.


23 posted on 06/12/2015 11:20:17 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Red Badger
In the recesses of a library basement in Hawaii, there is a filing cabinet with genealogical records indicating that the Great great great grandfather of Barack Obama on his mothers side was of the Panotiiae people Many believe the Panotii are the lost tribe later to surface in the Δ Quadrant as Ferengi
24 posted on 06/12/2015 11:29:58 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: bert

The Ferengi are pure capitalists..........................


25 posted on 06/12/2015 11:39:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: minnesota_bound; Red Badger
"A tidal wave or earthquake would make this island disappear again."

Nah.

The Bahamas’ African Roots

26 posted on 06/12/2015 11:59:21 AM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: sauropod

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27 posted on 06/12/2015 12:05:08 PM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: Red Badger
Didn't Columbus believe he was going to India?
If he was using this map, he would have known India was far from the first landmass he would reach.

28 posted on 06/12/2015 12:16:21 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: BitWielder1

He believed, or so it is said, that one could sail west to get to India rather than go around Africa, and it would be quicker. He grossly underestimated the diameter of the Earth...............


29 posted on 06/12/2015 12:21:51 PM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: Red Badger
Right, but even without the American continents in the way, according to this map the first land seen would not have been India.
Yet he thought he had reached India and he named the indigenous habitants "Indians".
That makes me wonder if Columbus was really using this map.

30 posted on 06/12/2015 12:32:07 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: Kartographer

Heh, I was getting ready to ping you.... Glad I don’t have to!

;-)


31 posted on 06/12/2015 12:32:52 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: BitWielder1

He had the right latitude for India, but had no clue how big the Earth was. His intent was to find a quick way to get to India, so he did what Climatologists do today, he declared it to be India.......................


32 posted on 06/12/2015 12:43:15 PM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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33 posted on 06/12/2015 12:56:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: Richard from IL

My compliments to your brother and his colleagues, this branch of science is immensely interesting. Lost works of antiquity are coming back into focus thanks to their work and that’s truly priceless.


34 posted on 06/12/2015 1:21:34 PM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Red Badger
...describes the "Panotii" people, who purportedly had ears that were so large they could use them as sleeping bags.


35 posted on 06/12/2015 1:35:14 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote
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To: Red Badger; SunkenCiv

Great post! I’m a Cartologophile too (if that’s a word)!


36 posted on 06/12/2015 1:40:14 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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It must be, my spellchecker passed it!...................


37 posted on 06/12/2015 1:45:11 PM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: Red Badger

Very interesting. Thanks for posting.


38 posted on 06/12/2015 2:00:37 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Billthedrill
I, too, am astounded at the mad skill navigational abilities of man years ago.

I'm particularly impressed with Wm Bligh's awesome trek taking the small boat he was kicked onto after the mutiny of The Bounty.

from wiki: The mutineers provided Bligh and eighteen loyal crewmen with a 23-foot (7 m) launch (so heavily loaded that the gunwales were only a few inches above the water). They were allowed four cutlasses, food and water for perhaps a week, a quadrant and a compass, but no charts, or Marine chronometer. Most of these were obtained by the clerk, Mr. Samuel, who acted with great calm and resolution, despite threats from the mutineers.

The launch could not hold all the loyal crew members, so four were detained on the Bounty for their useful skills; they were later released in Tahiti.

Tahiti was upwind from Bligh's initial position, and was the obvious destination of the mutineers. Many of the loyalists claimed to have heard the mutineers cry "Huzzah for Otaheite!" as the Bounty pulled away.

Timor was the nearest European outpost, 3,618 miles away. Bligh and his crew first made for Tofua, only a few leagues distant, to obtain supplies. However, they were attacked by hostile natives and John Norton, a quartermaster, was killed.[4] Fleeing from Tofua, Bligh did not dare to stop at the next islands (the Fiji islands), as he had no weapons for defence and expected hostile receptions. He did, however, make use of a small notebook to sketch a rough map of his discoveries.

Thus, he undertook the seemingly impossible 3,618 nautical miles (6,701 km; 4,164 mi) voyage to Timor, the nearest European settlement. In this remarkable act of seamanship, Bligh succeeded in reaching Timor after a 47-day voyage, the only casualty being the crewman killed on Tofua.

39 posted on 06/12/2015 2:02:55 PM PDT by ZinGirl (kids in college....can't afford a tagline right now)
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To: Red Badger

Does anyone here know the nature of the “bedrock” undergirding these structures?

S’il vous plait?


40 posted on 06/12/2015 2:06:20 PM PDT by Elsiejay (qeustion of qualificatioin)
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