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To: Swordmaker

Oh stuff it. I no more hate Apple than I hate waterfalls. Apple is a giant mega corp that acts like one. You seem to be the only one that doesn’t know that. And as for it not being his call, and you “suing” him, you’ve got nothing to back that up - zero. No law, no legal requirement, nothing. But it doesn’t even occur to you that Apple remains quiet BECAUSE of their potential legal liability. Instead you want to hang the whistleblower.

Apple IS waging a blame-the-messenger campaign through third parties to skew public opinion here. This whole argument came from Apple legal, because at long last Apple’s claims of impenetrable purity have been breached - and shown to have been breached all along. And it brings up questions about why Apple never discovered it themselves, and who would have been responsible for such in-house analysis - and if they knew and covered it up.

You think this kind of thing isn’t valuable to the government? There all sorts of angles here, serious ones that deserve discussion. Keeping Apple on some sort of pillar of innate morality is puerile and insulting. The investigator DID NOT TRUST APPLE TO FIX IT OR ADMIT IT. Period.

Deal with it.


12 posted on 06/04/2015 11:16:31 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker
The investigator DID NOT TRUST APPLE TO FIX IT OR ADMIT IT. Period. Deal with it.
If the standard is three months' notice, what kind of baby are we talking about who has to endanger my system (it happens that I got a new one for Christmas, but . . .) by seizing his 15 minutes of fame before there was any possibility that Apple would fix it?
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds
This guy didn't ever try to do what Jobs et. al. have done in making the Mac - but he places himself above them all - in his mind at least - and shows that he is "so wonderful" that he is able to find - after years of looking no doubt - a flaw. Do you understand, he found a flaw in work that a major corporation did!!!! I think we should give him a billion dollars, don't you?!! </sarcasm>

At least he didn't - so far as we know - undertake to create malicious software and propagate it for profit.


13 posted on 06/05/2015 5:25:59 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Talisker; Star Traveler; dayglored; Loud Mime; itsahoot; amigatec; PA Engineer; House Atreides; ...
Apple IS waging a blame-the-messenger campaign through third parties to skew public opinion here. This whole argument came from Apple legal, because at long last Apple’s claims of impenetrable purity have been breached - and shown to have been breached all along. And it brings up questions about why Apple never discovered it themselves, and who would have been responsible for such in-house analysis - and if they knew and covered it up.

Apple has no reason to "blame the messenger" in this issue. The fact is that YOU seem have to have Apple act reprehensibly in every issue. This guy is not the FIRST to be blamed for doing similar things in the security world for unethically revealing vulnerabilities before telling the producer about what he's found. . . and the ethical white hats all find it reprehensible. . . and the press pound on them too. It has NOTHING to do with Apple running a waging a "Blame-the-messenger campaign" which gains them absolutely nothing except in your delusional world where Apple has to be perfect for "fanbois." Nothing could be further from the truth. For Apple it IS about user experience and security.

Apple FIXES the problems that need fixing. . . and files the proper reports on those fixes. You can check those filings. His paranoia and distrust is just that. . . and it seems to match your delusions in believing him and that there is some kind of cabal of pundits that do Apple's bidding in a campaign to malign the messenger..

Your hatred of Apple can be seen in your posting history on these threads and your instant assumption of venality on the part of Apple on any question. In this instance, your vehement defense of your position that Apple is running an instant campaign to smear this "researcher" without any evidence is proof or your bias more than evidence of Apple's campaign.

Deal with that!

14 posted on 06/05/2015 8:02:49 AM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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