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To: Swordmaker
I do know what I am talking about on e911 and you haven't a clue.

Look, when I was promoted every new fire lieutenant was required to spend time in dispatch. I spent two long years at dispatch during the time we were upgrading to e911. So I do have knowledge about this subject... possibly even more than an electronic trinket salesman who owned his own company.

I am not sure why you spent so much effort on this inconsequential GPS issue. I admitted from the start that it was implemented in a way that forced one to use a paid service from Sprint or purchase a Bluetooth GPS unit.

I participated in numerous discussions about the GPS back when the phone was relatively new. I even recognized some of those conversations you selectively edited to support your position. As you found there were people who claimed like that they did not believe the phone had actual GPS. It was hard to know who to believe except for one major detail that could not be overlooked.

When using the paid Sprint navigation service the phone provided more accurate location information than would have been possible with “tower triangulation”. The service also worked in outlying areas with poor coverage where “tower triangulation” was not possible. It is not possible to “triangulate” in areas where there is only signals from one or two towers. It also behaved like a typical GPS unit from the time period where it would lose it;s navigating abilities inside a building or under heavy tree cover even when a cell signal was still available.

So the consensus at the time was that the GPS was there along with the antenna... but you try finding pictures of the GPS antenna on the Internet in a ten year old phone. Most of the forums where this phone was discussed are long gone... I have managed to find a few remnants at archive.org but that is about it. I feel the GPS was poorly implemented and other than not being able to concede a point where I know that you are misinformed it is totally inconsequential.

79 posted on 05/21/2015 11:28:47 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: fireman15; Star Traveler; dayglored; Loud Mime; itsahoot; amigatec; PA Engineer; House Atreides; ...
I participated in numerous discussions about the GPS back when the phone was relatively new. I even recognized some of those conversations you selectively edited to support your position. As you found there were people who claimed like that they did not believe the phone had actual GPS. It was hard to know who to believe except for one major detail that could not be overlooked.

Look fireman15, I "selectively edited" nothing from the posts I replicated. I posted the replies in those threads that were germane to the topic from people who seemed knowledgeable and ignored the ones who didn't. I did not post the entire thread for obvious reasons. . . Your purpose now in your last few post is pure ad hominem attack. I'm done with you and your twaddle!

80 posted on 05/21/2015 1:07:32 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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