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To: Swordmaker
As for the 16GB only coming out 8 months later? There were ways to get that earlier. . . if you knew how and wanted to pay quite a bit extra.

Yes I am familiar with that way of getting electronic devices that have not been released yet.. You send a large money order to someone who claims they will send you the device. The only down side is that usually they don't send you the yet to be released device at all or not until after it is released.

The primary difference between you and I when first taking a look at the iPhone is that I had been using another device for many months that was more useful to me than the first iPhone could ever have been. You were probably using a Nokia or Motorola flip phone or something similar. I used the PPC-6700 to get a low cost high speed internet connection on my laptop every time I went to the fire station for many years. The PPC had a connection speed that was nearly as fast as DSL and even cable modems of the time period. The iPhone may have had a theoretical 256k connection but it typically performed at less than what you would get with a 56k modem in our area. I can still type much faster on a slide out keyboard to create documents, emails or texts than I have ever been able to on a phone screen. And yes the PPC-6700 could be used with its internal GPS for navigation, and yes it has a sensor so you could use it as a "spirit level" if you wanted. You have got it backwards... the iPhone was the "toy" and the PPC was a serious communications tool. But I have to hand it to Apple... their ability to market toys to adults has no equal.

45 posted on 05/20/2015 9:53:24 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: fireman15; Star Traveler; dayglored; Loud Mime; itsahoot; amigatec; PA Engineer; House Atreides; ...
Yes I am familiar with that way of getting electronic devices that have not been released yet.. You send a large money order to someone who claims they will send you the device. The only down side is that usually they don't send you the yet to be released device at all or not until after it is released.

As usual, you make a huge assumption that is totally false. The proper way is to have someone who is a family member who then worked at Apple. . . such as a nephew. . . and knew the inside track.

You claim that your device was better then the iPhone when all the reviews claim it was NOT. Your anecdotal claims just do not match the claims of history. Your claims of the iPhone getting a connection of less than a 56K connection in your area fall into that category. I travelled across the country using one and lost signal for only a total of three hours. . . and the data speed was quite good. I am technically skilled, not a fireman, and know far better than do you what I am talking about.

And yes the PPC-6700 could be used with its internal GPS for navigation, and yes it has a sensor so you could use it as a "spirit level" if you wanted. You have got it backwards... the iPhone was the "toy" and the PPC was a serious communications tool.

You seem to pull "data" out of your rear end . . .

If there was a GPS in your PPC-6700 why do NONE of the reviews or any of the technical reviews say NOT ONE THING about it. . . and in fact, claim that the mapping functions work only with a connection to an external Bluetooth GPS device. You make absolutely NO sense. Not a single of them mention that it had anything like motion sensors installed in it, and you would think that it would mention such an innovation.

YOU are desperately making stuff up to suit your argument. If I am wrong, provide a link proving that your toy has X,Y,Z directional motion sensors built into it. Put up or shut up, Fireman15.

In fact, in relation to your claimed GPS, a Google search for PPC-6700 GPS just turned this up:

"Once and for all, the (PPC-)6700 has E911 GPS only, it cannot be used wtih turn by turn gps applications. If you really want/need some form of inaccurate navigation and don't want to buy a bluetooth gps unit, your options are Microsoft Live Search, Google Maps, or Navizon." — Source XDA Developers forum on XV6700, PPC-6700 ROM development

A search for the E911 GPS finds that E911 GPS reveals that it is a WIFI empowered GPS system that works by triangulating specialized VERIZON ONLY WIFI hotspots and cell towers, and then trying to calculate over the internet where the handset is located. It is NOT a Geopositioning Satellite System, it's a cheap Kludge to avoid having to pay for onboard GPS hardware and licensing. It's accuracy is approximately +/-350 feet. What a joke. E911 is intended only for general area location for emergency 911 calls, not for accuracy for GPS directional use or driving or location use. You are grasping at straws.

A Google search for PPC-6700 and motion sensors returns ZIP.

46 posted on 05/20/2015 11:01:50 AM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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