Why Apple Watch isn't the most advanced timepiece

cnbc ^ | 4-25-2015 | Eric Rosenbaum

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Taking on Apple is dangerous business. You run the risk of not only having another U2 album automatically loaded into your iTunes account as a Godfather-like sample of what Apple can do to you, but getting the hordes of Apple fan boys and fan girls mad at you.

[Swordmaker]

Spokeshave

I had to look that up. There is a really interesting article on Wikipedia about it. I love mechanical watches. I recently watched some youtube vids about some insanely expensive hand-crafted watches. Truly amazing. I’m considering upgrading to a newer mechanical, or possibly one that is just new to me. I need to do a lot more research, as it won’t exactly be pocket change for me.

My current most worn watch is a Stürhling Turbillion Edition mechanical wind with a meteorite dial in 14K Rose Gold, Black Crocodile strap with rose gold quick deployant clasp. It has to be wound daily.

I will regretfully put it in the drawer when my Apple Watch in Space Black Stainless Steel arrives.

When I was in college, I splurged and spent $450 on a Longines Wittnauer Chronograph. This is the watch I bought.

I still have it but it isn't in working condition now. I need to have it serviced.

(The sizes of the watches presented here are proportional and as accurate as I can make them.)

[Swordmaker]

Just tinkering. Nothing new here. But apple hasn’t had a new idea since the original mac or the iPod.

Oh, yes, the dumb is strong in this one. . . The MAPS condition is apparently untreatable.

wordmaker's and Kathy's proposed diagnosis for the new IDC-10 addenda:

90210 iOS Munchausen's Apple-Plexy Syndrome (MAPS), The overwhelming compulsion to post negative, judgmental, aggressive, and false commentary on any website thread related to Apple products wherever found, including phobic reaction to projectedv Apple user euphoria. First and subsequent encounters.

What the phone makers were doing BEFORE and AFTER iPhone:

Now tell me that "Apple hasn't had a new idea since the Mac or the iPod" and that Apple is just copying other's work. You turn the world topsy turvy in your deranged version of reality. You are entitled to your opinion, but not to your own facts.

[Star Traveler]

You said ... “But apple hasn’t had a new idea since the original mac or the ipod.”

— — —

Well ... it’s quite amazing that Apple has been so wildly successful from having no new ideas. There are companies that would “kill” to be that successful from no new ideas ... LOL ...

I guess those other companies just can’t figure out how to make money from nothing special ... :-) ...

I hope you do know how stupid that sounds.

[freedumb2003]

>>I guess those other companies just can’t figure out how to make money from nothing special ... :-) ...<<

Their fanboy strategy works like a champ. It sucks in the gullible who are willing to pay a premium for last week’s technology.

That doesn’t change the fact they jut tinker to make a better mousetrap that others already created.

If there was a Trith in Advertising law again, it would be “apple: master tinkerer — nothing new.”

[freedumb2003]

I granted you the iPhone.

I just noted it was the last disruptive technology apple had.

Reading is FUNdamental.

[Swordmaker]

I granted you the iPhone.

You said Mac and iPod. . . fundamentally read your own posts.

[freedumb2003]

>>You said Mac and iPod. . . fundamentally read your own posts.<<

I misspoke and must now retract my comment about reading. I thought I said “iPhone” which was a disruptive technology.

I agree I should FUndamentally read before posting and I stand abashed.

That lovely detour doesn’t change the fact that apple has been doing catch up ever since.

They just make better mousetraps and make money by convincing fanboys to pray a premium. It isn’t technological superiority, it is Scientology.

Good for them but someone needs to point out the Emperor has no clothes.

[Star Traveler]

The problem is ... no other company can figure out how to be so WILDLY SUCCESSFUL as Apple from “nothing new” ... LOL ...

[freedumb2003]

>>The problem is ... no other company can figure out how to be so WILDLY SUCCESSFUL as Apple from “nothing new” ... LOL<<

Yeah, that little tiny Microsomething or other, started by some guy named Door or Gates or something...total losers.

Appeal to authority doesn’t do much — apple has for the longest time just been pretty good tinkerers.

Pretty good marketing with some fanboys <> anything better.

Your logical fallacy notwithstanding.

[Star Traveler]

Apple is still making a ton of money from “nothing new” ... LOL ...

One is a fact ... the ton of money, and the other (”nothing new”) is an assertion by you. So, put them both together, you’ve got Apple making a ton of money from nothing new. What a deal! ... :-) ...

[Swordmaker]

Good for them but someone needs to point out the Emperor has no clothes.

But you don't know what you are talking about. We who have used Multiple platforms are in a far better position to make that judgment than are you, freedumb2003. I have worked with multiple computer platforms. . . I've made a good living running a business that does exactly that for years. People come to me for advice on what to use. I know both platforms intimately. It is obvious you don't.

I know the phone platforms. . . their plusses and minuses. . . and I know what people want and need. Most people do NOT want to tinker with customizing their phones. The fact is that there is only a percentage of the population, a noisy 4% according to studies, LIKES configuring their phones and tablets, tweaking and finding apps to make it work the way they like. The majority, the 96%, wants something that works intuitively like an appliance.

Apple's approach to its computers, its operating systems, and its mobile devices is to provide those appliances. . . and as such they do not pile on the "Bells and Whistles" of spec sheet latest gadgets, but those things they have perfected to work as best they can and work as smoothly as possible, integrated into an ecosystem with seamlessly with all of Apple's other equipment with as little set up as humanly possible. No tweaking, no geeky settings, intuitive, and usually without manuals to wade through.

However, underneath the surface of that seeming appliance computer, is an extremely powerful UNIX™ computer that actually will run rings around your Windows machines. For example, my main Mac OS X computer routinely runs SEVEN operating systems. UNIX™, OS X.10.3 Yosemite, WindowsXP, Windows 7, Windows 8.1, and two versions of Linux. Out of curiosity, I have run all seven of these systems simultaneously, just to demonstrate that it could be done.

Yes, a Windows box can run Virtual Machines. . . but it doesn't do it well. . . nor can it do so many, and not in windows inside its normal OS, because you see, OS X is UNIX™ and is running on top of UNIX™ and so do the others. UNIX™ was built from the ground up to multiuser, multisession, multitasking. It is an industrial strength Operating System.

You anti-Apple people come into these threads and try to tells us how bad the hardware and OS and the company is, when we have the direct evidence of our own experience with ALL of those that tells us that you don't know anything at all what you are talking about except what you've heard from your echo chamber choir of other Apple haters. Add to that your tactic of telling us we are stupid and wasteful of our money for buying Apple products when we could buy something "almost as good" for less money.

What you fail to understand is that 90% of the Apple users have BOUGHT those "almost as good" pieces of junk before and put up with their "almost as good" operating systems, "almost as good" hardware, and "almost as good" customer service, and found it not good enough for what they were willing to spend their time and money doing.

They made a conscious choice to buy Apple and certainly are not idiots who cannot make such choices on their own. They absolutely don't need you coming in here and telling them how you, Freedumb2003, are not smart enough to make the better choice like they did, and then repeatedly littering up these threads proving your lack of smarts by smearing them and their well considered, experienced choices when THEY are much more knowledgeable than you on the subject. You are like a sixth grader lecturing College students on their own subjects. Do you see how foolish you are?

If you run true to form, you won't bother to read this. That's what Apple haters do. Hit and run.

[Swordmaker]

Appeal to authority doesn’t do much — apple has for the longest time just been pretty good tinkerers.

I see no appeal to authority there. There is no authority to which Star Traveler is appealing. Wrong logical fallacy. It's a non sequitur. It does not follow that Apple's success and the failure of others are in anyway connected, nor does Apple's wild success prevent the wild success of any other company. As are all of your claims and arguments.

Of course, Freedumb2003 appeals only to FreeDumb2003's authority for his claims. . . and no factual data at all.

[Star Traveler]

So very well said, Swordmaker!

[Blue Highway]

perfectly stated

[Blue Highway]

Apple will never release a solar watch for the very reason the sun is not proprietary to Apple. They can’t have that.

[Blue Highway]

ifones not having replaceable batteries are according to the genius bar hipsters, “genius!”

[Blue Highway]

I want to see if it can withstand the abuse an ordinary Casio G-Shock can take and still keep working. Apple are you listening?

[Blue Highway]

you have a bad battery on an Apple 5c ALREADY? I recall Swordmaker bragging that his first generation iPhone was still at 80% capacity battery wise.... Something smells rotten in Denmark I tell you.

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[freedumb2003]

>>I see no appeal to authority there.<<

To paraphrase: “Many people buy it, therefore it is innovative.”

Direct appeal to authority.