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Why men refuse to marry: Women complain chaps today won't settle down.
The Daily Mail ^ | April 20, 2015 | Peter Lloyd

Posted on 04/19/2015 11:54:56 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

A controversial new book argues that the triumph of feminism has meant men are now second-class citizens.

George Clooney, Benedict Cumberbatch and Eddie Redmayne may have all taken the plunge recently — but they are a diminishing band of brothers, for the number of men marrying in the West has plunged in recent decades.

The state of matrimony is not just ailing. It is dying out faster than a mobile phone battery.

According to the Office for National Statistics, marriage in Britain is at its lowest level since 1895. In 2011, there were just 286,634 ceremonies — a 41 per cent free fall from 1972, when 480,285 couples tied the knot.

For an army of women, Mr Right is simply not there, no matter how hard they look for him. And the reason? When it comes to marriage, men are on strike.

Why? Because the rewards are far less than they used to be, while the cost and dangers it presents are far greater.

‘Ultimately, men know there’s a good chance they’ll lose their friends, their respect, their space, their sex life, their money and — if it all goes wrong — their family,’ says Dr Helen Smith, a lecturer at the University of Tennessee and author of Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood And The American Dream.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: MinorityRepublican

For most of human history it has been the man who initiates the divorce. These days its the women. 70% iirc of all divorces are filed by the wife. In many of these she just wants a change of scenery with new boyfriend, new husband down the road. And why not if the hapless schmuck she married is going to be paying out for her new, fun “lifestyle” where she gets the house and primary custody of the children. Meaning the ex-husband will get a vastly inferior role in seeing his children grow up and participating in raising them.

Too many heartless conniving wives have opted for the above scam AKA taking the ex to the cleaners via our liberal-feminist dominated court system.

Young guys are wise to the racket so are not marrying as often plus they can usually find free uncommitted sex so that part gets taken care of at least.


41 posted on 04/20/2015 4:28:18 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Chainmail

Congratulations on number II. Glad it is working out for you.

I was in a somewhat similar situation (except the shacking up with a former police officer part).

Have a pretty good relationship with my kids. When they remember to call ;-).


42 posted on 04/20/2015 4:31:30 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: Jonty30

Exactly.

Just find a woman you hate and buy her a house.


43 posted on 04/20/2015 4:40:11 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Got a faithful Christian right here in my hometown here in South Central Texas who goes to services faithfully. But, she's a redhead (lol). Age about 27.

Also, know another in Phenix City, Alabama who is big into sports. However, whoever marries her better be ready for a whole first string of football players. She is a BIG woman and I don't mean fat. VERY Godly woman who is constantly involved in matters of the church AND goes on mission trips to Africa. Age on her is 28.

The redhead is tiny and big into outdoors (she works for Federal Agriculture Dept.) and the other, well, she's a BIG, solid woman working in Human Resources in the health industry who can help build a log cabin, literally. Both are VERY faithful Christians and will not put up with any worldly guy shenanigans. These are NOT liberal, leftist women. However, VERY hard to gain their attention due to the lack of devotion to God and attitude of men these days (Godly women have the SAME problem with men).

44 posted on 04/20/2015 4:52:45 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: dp0622

I agree with what you said. Also, feminists have droned on for decades about how men are unnecessary. In fact, they say men are a detriment to happiness.

Quote: “You can be a career woman and support yourself. You can have children and raise them yourself. All sex with a man is actually rape.”

What is seldom revealed is that women who choose to go it alone usually reach a time in their lives where they regret that choice and are very lonely.


45 posted on 04/20/2015 4:53:56 AM PDT by randita (...Our First Lady is a congenital liar - William Safire, 1996)
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To: MinorityRepublican

These men were raised by women who did not grow up with good fathers in the home.
There are some strong women who can raise a son up with no help to be a man.
But most of these women themselves have never known what a good man is.


46 posted on 04/20/2015 4:54:32 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: dennisw

“... liberal-feminist dominated court system.”

...combined with “no fault” divorce enable some of the “70%” unhappy women to walk out for those supposedly greener pa$ture$. The reality is that the perceived cash benefit of divorce is short lived, it typically decreases the initiating divorcee’s long term financial and emotional health.

If a marriage were built on mutual, unconditional love, it would seem any perceived financial incentive (albeit short term) for divorce would not be a consideration. Also, the impact of our declining culture, corrupted political institutions, our entitlement mentality, “right” to be happy and self-fulfilled, free sex, etc etc has reinforced the devaluation of marriage.

Dating used to be the process in part, to find and know the person to whom one might want to commit oneself because of shared core values. The current version of dating for some has evolved to entertaining oneself with another human being’s body, money and time. The show Two & A Half Men reinforces this false value through Sheen’s character.


47 posted on 04/20/2015 5:04:13 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot (U Think Leftist/Liberals Still Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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To: MinorityRepublican

why buy the COW when the MILK is FREE.......


48 posted on 04/20/2015 5:05:19 AM PDT by zzwhale
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To: VanDeKoik
Many guys are also wary of marrying a lady to then find out that she hates sex

Or she gets fat(ter). Once that ring goes on her finger, it costs more to get rid of her than it does to keep her around. Men get shafted in marriage.

I'm almost 40 and never been married. For me, it is a cost-benefit analysis. Some fat, lazy, loudmouth slut (which encompasses the majority of American women) is just not wort the time or effort.

49 posted on 04/20/2015 5:08:51 AM PDT by nonliberal (Sent from a payphone in a whorehouse in Mexico.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Take the tiny one. Less chance of her ballooning up when she hits the wall about age 30-35.


50 posted on 04/20/2015 5:12:43 AM PDT by nonliberal (Sent from a payphone in a whorehouse in Mexico.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

My first marriage ended in divorce. I was deployed for seven months (USMC) and when I got back she was four months pregnant. I asked her best friend who the father was and she said, “Oh God. It could be anybody!”

My current marriage has lasted 26 years so far. At one point my mother was at odds with my wife and I had to tell her “Don’t make me chose between you and my wife because you will lose.” A few years after that one of my brothers was expressing his dissatisfaction of my choice in a rather disrespectful way. I told him that I’d hate to have to kick his ass and he straightened up. Since then my wife is now the favorite daughter-in-law. We’ve had our problems but we work through them. Giving up is too easy. I guess my wife is correct when she tells me I am stubborn and hard-headed.


51 posted on 04/20/2015 5:13:58 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Chris Stevens won't be running for president.)
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To: nonliberal

lol...


52 posted on 04/20/2015 5:16:27 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: dp0622

“... the women had a scheme. If none of them had sex before marriage then the guy would marry his girlfriend..”

I completely understand what you are saying and I may be just nitpicking here but I disagree with the term “scheme”. I think our Mother’s generation lived more godly and conducted themselves more like good Christian women. I don’t think it was a thought out plan to get a husband. More like a way of viewing a strong marriage based in conservative principals. IMHO.


53 posted on 04/20/2015 5:24:33 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: MinorityRepublican

It’s interesting what Wild Bill For America says about Ukranian women versus American women.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S3FjXbRLQ4


54 posted on 04/20/2015 5:24:58 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: MinorityRepublican
My son, on entering high school witnessed a group of girls passing by. They said they were watching them, and then the girls all erupted in a long string of loud profanities of the like he'd not seen before. He told both of us later in the day.

Given my son's travels outside of the country and across the USA, he's kind of skeptical of most women. I'd say he's learned caution at a young age and I am perfectly happy with that.

55 posted on 04/20/2015 5:28:00 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: sauropod

Ah, kids. Love ‘em to tears but it gets lonely waiting by the phone.


56 posted on 04/20/2015 5:28:19 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

>>‘Ultimately, men know there’s a good chance they’ll lose their friends, their respect, their space, their sex life, their money and — if it all goes wrong — their family<<

Winner winner, chicken dinner!


57 posted on 04/20/2015 5:39:37 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("I'm not questioning your honor...I'm denying its existence." - Tyrion Lannister)
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To: dp0622
Like I said before on another thread, women used to trade sex for love and a lifetime of caring and commitment, now they trade it for a meal, a drink, or just to kill a few hours. They don’t understand how brutally strong the male sex drive is. many will get it when and where they can in today’s society. In my mother’s times, the women had a scheme...If none of them had sex before marriage then the guy would marry his girlfriend and really cherish sex with her. Plus, there would be not other place to get it. That scheme worked well.

That's a very cynical view, and yet I cannot disagree with it. Marriage has always been an enterprise in which someone is the second-class citizen. For years it was women, but they had little choice. Now it's men... and they DO have a choice.

58 posted on 04/20/2015 6:03:51 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: fatnotlazy
It works the other way too. I’m female and didn’t marry because most of the guys I met were irresponsible losers. It takes two people to make a marriage work and most of the guys I knew wanted the woman to do all the work. I suppose they thought women’s lib meant they didn’t have to do anything anymore. Wrong.

I also found this. Men today are liberal by day (as in, they expect the wife to go out and earn her fair share of the money) but turn traditional at night when it's time to clean house. I finally cleaned house by abandoning men entirely. I've been celibate for 11 years now and the drop in stress is amazing. I don't intend to try it again. Most of my female friends who are married spend half their time commenting on how much work it is.

59 posted on 04/20/2015 6:08:33 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: MinorityRepublican; All

I come at this from a slightly different approach — Since the 70s and 80s men have been taught to feel bad/guilty about themselves for being taller, faster, stronger etc by the feminist movement (which are all liberal, pro infanticide, and pro lesbian — If you doubt this, just look at what the “feminist” movement does to conservative women) and for the most part they have succeed in making a lot of softer men feel that way about themselves which has left these “pajama boys” very confused about their role as men because any aggressiveness that they used to have is gone. They are living longer with their parents, staying longer in college, and delaying any and most responsibility these pajama boys are so confused about who and what they are and lacking the confidence to pursue a woman — Because confidence is so foreign to them. These boys have no clue what being aggressive means. Girls are left wanting and frustrated.

And this, this is what is leaving women constantly “wanting” more and therefore any man willing show them affection, even negative affection, is a grasp at a long term commitment and these girls/women have been conditioned to “give it up” with hopes of snagging the guy, but because these guys are getting lucky so often and so easily they simply don’t have to commit — These guys that are not pajama boys, they have a name for it, it is called SPORT F’n...


60 posted on 04/20/2015 6:08:38 AM PDT by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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