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To: central_va
Wait, was the war about slavery or keeping the union together with violence and bloodshed? Confusing, Lincoln cultists never get their stories straight.

Both. It was about keeping the Union together and eradicating the scourge of chattel slavery. Not so confusing, but then again, Neoconfederate fetishists aren't so bright.

15 posted on 04/14/2015 7:15:47 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Both. It was about keeping the Union together and eradicating the scourge of chattel slavery. Not so confusing, but then again, Neoconfederate fetishists aren't so bright.

Funny I must have missed the history lesson where Lincoln ran his 1860 campaign as an abolitionist. I must of had a appointment or something.

16 posted on 04/14/2015 7:18:36 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Both. It was about keeping the Union together and eradicating the scourge of chattel slavery.

That is incorrect. Lincoln was not going to eradicate chattel slavery. That didn't become an aim of the war until a year and a half into it.

This is called "moving the goal posts." If you are going to criticize others, you need to get your facts accurate.

28 posted on 04/14/2015 7:43:37 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Preserving the union, yes. Eradicating slavery, no.


32 posted on 04/14/2015 7:47:54 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

and to prove what I said, read Lincoln’s own explanation in his response to Horace Greeley:

http://www.civilwarhome.com/lincolngreeley.htm

“If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that.”

So as you say, not so confusing at all.


39 posted on 04/14/2015 7:52:53 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
It was about keeping the Union together and eradicating the scourge of chattel slavery.

Sure. Wars were fought all over the world to abolish chattel slavery. Wait. What?

74 posted on 04/14/2015 8:30:24 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

I see it as ultimately about the control and future of the country, as it expanded West.


105 posted on 04/14/2015 9:35:52 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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