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To: Olog-hai

I agree with you. This is a silly and dangerous game. Why can’t we just assert our first amendment rights and not give in or compromise?

What if this were about not being allowed to bring a concealed weapon to wedding? Would we say, “okay, but all the money I make off your event I’m donating to GOA”? I have my doubts.


53 posted on 04/12/2015 8:20:11 AM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Roos_Girl
Why can’t we just assert our first amendment rights and not give in or compromise?

The Soddomists don't care what "we" do...you can assert your first amendment rights as you please, but as a florist here in Washington State can attest...you will lose your business and your home. No "giving in" required on your part.

105 posted on 04/12/2015 9:34:04 AM PDT by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: Roos_Girl; Olog-hai; IronJack; onedoug; TNoldman; greene66; kanawa; stanne

“I agree with you. This is a silly and dangerous game. Why can’t we just assert our first amendment rights and not give in or compromise?”

You’d be paying an exorbitant fine, and then if you don’t pay it, and knuckle under you’ll go to jail. Are you ready and willing to do that? And will you have hoards of people rising up and marching on your behalf? Do we have any volunteers here?

The blacks, the gays have used the civil disobedient approach and it has worked for them, but many, including their leaders, were more than willing to spend time in jail, because their cause was that important to them.

I don’t see that this cause is as important to Christians and conservatives, at least not yet, because I don’t see anyone willing to defy the law and go to jail over it and to be supported by hoards of protesters, burning things, causing havoc... like what works for the other side.

Until we get to that point the left will continue winning. The reality is that most of us consider anathema the willful breaking of laws. We have not reached the realization that we’re already in a country where the rule of law is no longer in force, where the president, congress, members of preferred groups blatantly break the law everyday without consequences.

We still think that winning elections will solve the problem . Look at Indiana where the people have a republican governor and legislature. They pass a law that their people want, and within 24hr they cave completely.

What that shows is that even when we win elections the other side has enough weapons left that it can totally obliterate the elected officials and the election results and thus the desires of the people.

We have to ask ourselves, what are these other weapons that the left successfully used against the people of Indiana (and Arkansas, as well)? And how do we counter them??

Right now we’re naive babes in the wood when it comes to fighting this culture war.


143 posted on 04/12/2015 11:22:50 AM PDT by aquila48
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