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Christians to Gays: We'll Accept Your Business and Donate Your Money to 'Traditional Pro-Family Lobb
cnsnews.com ^ | April 10, 2015 | Michael W. Chapman

Posted on 04/12/2015 7:41:10 AM PDT by kanawa

Christians to Gays: We'll Accept Your Business and Donate Your Money to 'Traditional Pro-Family Lobby'

While gay activists are attacking Christian bakeries and wedding planners and filing lawsuits to put them out of business because of their religious beliefs, a Catholic priest has come up with a simple solution that, if adopted nationally, likely could end much of the gay and left-wing offensive in this realm.

Simply, accept all business from gays and tell them that the money will be donated to a traditional pro-family lobby or organization. And if your business is catering, for instance, show up at the gay wedding wearing a Cross necklace, a Bible-pin on your lapel, and a Bible verse embroidered on your uniform that expresses your morality, such as Mark 10:6-7, "But at the beginning of creation God made them male and female. For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife."

As Fr. John Zuhlsdorf explains in his Apr. 2 blog post, "It’s time for everyone to calm down. We need a new approach. Think about this. When some homosexual couple comes to your Christian business for services at their immoral event, don’t panic. Go ahead and take their business!"

"Then explain what is going to happen next," says Fr. Z on his popular blog page.

"Tell them that the food and services will be just fine. And then inform them that all of the money that they pay for the services will be donated to a traditional pro-family lobby."

"If it is something like catering, where your employees have to be there to provide services, tell them that all your people will smile, be professional, and everyone of them will be wearing crucifixes and have the Holy Family embroidered on their uniforms," says Fr. Z.

"Then show them pictures of your uniforms," he writes. "When the truck pulls up, speakers will be playing Immaculate Mary. Show them the truck and play the music."

“Oh, you would be offended by that? I’m so sorry," notes Fr. Z. "You approached us because we are Christians. Right? We are happy to provide services for you and we are grateful that you chose to come to our Christian catering business. We just want to be of help.”

The priest continued, "Then tell them that you will take out an ad in the paper to let everyone know what you did with their money, thanking them by name for their business so that you could make the contribution."

"I suspect this approach, if adopted far and wide, would put an end to attacks on Christian businesses," said Fr. Z.

Fr. John Zuhlsdorf is a Catholic priest of the diocese of Velletri-Segni, which is a diocese in Italy close to Rome, headed by Bishop Vincenzo Apicella. Fr. Zuhlsdorf was ordained a priest by St. Pope John Paul II in 1991.

Fr. Zuhlsdorf currently resides in Madison, Wisc., where he serves as president of the Tridentine Mass Society of the Diocese of Madison, under Bishop Robert C. Morlino.


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An idea worthy of consideration.
1 posted on 04/12/2015 7:41:10 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: kanawa

Is it? All for the mammon of unrighteousness to fund lobbies? Is that how the apostles did it?


2 posted on 04/12/2015 7:43:27 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: kanawa
That's a good idea. Another idea I had was to accept the business then preach the Gospel to them the whole time (1st Amendment).

IF...BIG IF...someone is truly not wanting to do business with a gay marriage because of religious reasons (and not just because it disgusts you)...then for EVERY wedding you could put scriptures on the boxes the cakes come in...and when you take their order...you can remind them that sodomy is a sin...."would you like sprinkles? Have you ever read Romans 1? I can quote it and sodomy is a sin against God........what color do you want the letters?"

3 posted on 04/12/2015 7:44:51 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: kanawa

Finally, a thinking priest.


4 posted on 04/12/2015 7:46:17 AM PDT by Parmy
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To: Olog-hai

I have a suspicion that few would accept the service the business is offering.
If they do, it is an opportunity to express your faith to those that may need it.


5 posted on 04/12/2015 7:47:17 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: Olog-hai
It's actually fairly clever. The homosexuals are essentially inviting Christians to come to a homosexual event and evangelize. It's a golden opportunity which would not likely occur if the homosexuals were not making special effort to offend and shut-down Christian businesses. Their efforts would back-fire beautifully.

It's not about the money. It's never about the money. It's about the message. This spreads the Christian message where it is needed. That's what Jesus would do.

6 posted on 04/12/2015 7:48:10 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Victim" -- some people eagerly take on the label because of the many advantages that come with it.)
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To: kanawa

Can one of our Freeper Attorneys provide the legal pros and cons of this idea. I like the idea but am not sure of the legal problems that might come from this tactic.


7 posted on 04/12/2015 7:48:13 AM PDT by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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To: Olog-hai
All for the mammon of unrighteousness to fund lobbies?

I don't think that's the point. The point is to kill the enthusiasm of the gays assaulting Christian businesses and thereby stop them altogether.

8 posted on 04/12/2015 7:50:05 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (WSC: The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end...)
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To: kanawa

Not an ideal situation solution, but if it reaches the point where the choice is prison or bankruptcy, Id support it. I am not sure I’d limit the donations to lobbies, but definitely it would go to a cause that the moonbats would not like.


9 posted on 04/12/2015 7:50:08 AM PDT by NRx (An unrepentant champion of the old order and determined foe of damnable Whiggery in all its forms.)
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To: kanawa

Good idea except the gay cake mafia isn’t interested in procuring services from Christian business owners. They want to stop you and me and everyone else from patronizing such businesses.


10 posted on 04/12/2015 7:50:20 AM PDT by GSWarrior (Burning the Constitution increases global warming)
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To: RoosterRedux

Won’t happen by giving in to them and making ourselves look like servants of Mammon, thus hypocrites. Does not demonstrate a faith in God but in the world.


11 posted on 04/12/2015 7:51:49 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: ClearCase_guy

Think about the kind of thinking behind it. The First Amendment is utterly undermined; you can’t get it back by lobbying for it.


12 posted on 04/12/2015 7:52:54 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: usnavy_cop_retired

I’d like to hear from one, too.
My layman’s opinion would be that as long as you’re upfront about the type of catering you do, there would be no problem.


13 posted on 04/12/2015 7:52:59 AM PDT by kanawa
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To: kanawa

No, if you rob a bank and give the money to charity, it doesn’t absolve you of the sin.

It doesn’t do it in this case either, you can’t be a party of it.


14 posted on 04/12/2015 7:53:23 AM PDT by dila813
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To: Olog-hai

Actually, since the bakers will be donating all the money (even the product costs and labor), it doesn’t look like it’s about mammon.


15 posted on 04/12/2015 7:54:10 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (WSC: The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end...)
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To: GSWarrior

That is correct. And it’s also a step along the way to banning other religious activities. Totalitarians cannot be lobbied into restoring freedoms.


16 posted on 04/12/2015 7:54:28 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Not following you — this seems to be a case where everyone would be talking and saying what they want. You see this as undermining the First Amendment? I’ll need some detail.


17 posted on 04/12/2015 7:54:36 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Victim" -- some people eagerly take on the label because of the many advantages that come with it.)
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To: kanawa

So, what is the difference between Christians catering an imitation homo same sex wedding, and a Christian eating of the sacrifices to idols or to Caesar?


18 posted on 04/12/2015 7:55:07 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( NEVER trust a politician with your firearm rights!)
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To: kanawa
It's a coward's way out. To hell with subtlety. Tell them right to their faces that their lifestyle is poisoned, and that you will not participate in it, or tacitly endorse it by providing material support.

This isn't a game we're playing. This is a war, and it won't be won by caving in, no matter how cleverly you do it. We'll win by asserting that we have no NEED to indulge in this kind of trickery, because we have the right to refuse their business in the first place.

19 posted on 04/12/2015 7:55:18 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: RoosterRedux

Of course it is. Do you think the apostles raised money in such a fashion, in order to lobby Rome for aught? No shortage of sodomites during their time.


20 posted on 04/12/2015 7:55:26 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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