Do pilots believe in UFOs? Many of them do and here is my close encounter story

nydailynews.com ^ | Andrew Danziger

[lowbridge]

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[onedoug]

I think because a ship that reflects light is made up ultimately of atoms. Atoms moving faster than light would seem an impossibility in that the signals between the nucleus and surrounding electrons would result in those atoms being torn apart.

E=mc².

[AFreeBird]

I’ll look up the book. I do like SciFi (not syfy).

Perhaps the vehicles could be from both? Who knows.

[Finny]

Mercury astronaut Gordon Cooper wrote about his own experiences with UFOs — and there were several — in his autobiography “Leap of Faith.” He stated flat-out that the government went to great lengths to hide and cover-up any and all info and evidence.

[JoeFromSidney]

I don't know what the answer is, but credible people are seeing incredible things. People whose testimony you'd have no trouble accepting in a murder trial.

[alexander_busek]

I think because a ship that reflects light is made up ultimately of atoms. Atoms moving faster than light would seem an impossibility in that the signals between the nucleus and surrounding electrons would result in those atoms being torn apart.

The disruption of any "signals" between the electrons and the nuclei would be the least of all problems.

But, in any event, I guess the solution to your objection would be to ensure that the ship would - during FTL flight - not consist of atoms.

Once it drops to below light-speed (e.g., when preparing for a landing), it could then revert to being made of "ordinary" matter.

Regards,

[onedoug]

Respectfully, this is nonsense.

We have to deal with the things we know rather than speculating - with no evidence whatsoever - about the technologies of some super-ethereal “other”.

[McGruff]

Andrew Danziger is a 28-year airline veteran, ...and was one of the pilots to fly Barack Obama during his 2008 presidential campaign.

Was smoking allowed during those flights?

[alexander_busek]

Respectfully, this is nonsense.

Actually, its stuff and nonsense.

We have to deal with the things we know rather than speculating - with no evidence whatsoever - about the technologies of some super-ethereal “other”.

We don't have to do any such thing.

We're just two admittedly armchair observers, speculating about the possibilities. No harm in that.

Regards,

[onedoug]

You’re right, of course. It’s just that I’m more of a physics than a sci-fi buff.

FReegards.

[SunkenCiv]

Exactly, you file the report, you’re grounded.

[SunkenCiv]

I think it was Ben, uh, can’t remember his last name, anyway, colleague of Johnson’s.

[SunkenCiv]

I listened to J. Allen Hynek speak (he toured as a sort of follow-on to the movie CEOTTK), and he suggested “metaterrestrial” as one possibility — that is, Earthlings but from the future. The problem with that, or rather, one problem with that is, the Earth is moving, and thousands of years from now won’t be in the same place. :’)

[SunkenCiv]

Respectfully, _this_ is nonsense.

We have to deal with the things we know rather than speculating -- with no evidence whatsoever...

There's plenty of evidence, but it's not something you'll accept as evidence, because you're of the opinion that knowledge is complete and you can judge what is possible and impossible.

[SunkenCiv]

Well put.

[RoosterRedux]

I don't think Hynek considered that these creatures were not from the future...but from the past.

Part of the nephilim saga.

[onedoug]

Pray, tell me of this evidence. How do you know what my response will be without my having been able to evaluate it?

[SunkenCiv]

Your posts above refer to UFO reports, which for all practical purposes you claim don’t exist, on a priori grounds. IOW, I was describing what you’d already done. But thanks for playing dumb.

[SunkenCiv]

I’d be very surprised if Hynek subscribed to anything to do with nephilim.

[RoosterRedux]

I doubt Hynek even knew what the nephilim were. But he did reach the conclusion that what was being encountered was inter-dimensional...and not extraterrestrial.