Posted on 04/06/2015 7:11:13 PM PDT by goodn'mad
Can you remember a time when a business owner's business was considered to be HIS or HER business? They could (and did) post signs reserving the right to serve anyone they chose. For example, "No shoes...no service." Or, "You must wear a coat and tie to dine here." No one thought much about it. It was a given....it was THEIR business, THEY took the risk, and they could run it as they dang-well pleased! And if they didn't want your business, fine, you could go to the many establishments that did. The marketplace pretty much sorted it all out without laws or government interference.
But the businesses that lasted were pretty shrewd. For example, the color of ALL money is the same regardless of the person's heritage, race, gender, religion, sexual preference etc. so why would anyone in their right mind refuse to serve a person in a restaurant on that basis (and no, I'm not saying it is ok to do anything illegal or unethical for money)? If it was bad for business, why do it? I strongly contend that NO American should be forced under the color of law to do anything contrary to their strongly held religious beliefs. After all, this IS America...right...right?
Now all of that is being stood on its head. Business owners are being forced to participate in activities contrary to their strongly held religious convictions. What is wrong with this picture?
And before I finish my rant, please let me pose a few questions: "As a male, why can't I enroll in an all-girl school?" Why must things ALWAYS be one-way, that is, the deck always be stacked against mainstream conservatives? Or how about this one, "Can a white person join the ranks of the NAACP or would he be rejected due the color of his skin?"
And maybe, just maybe, Christians should start calling gay bakeries insisting that THEY bake cakes containing despised logos such as, "God is Love" or "Christ died for Your Sins" or "Marriage: One woman - one man." The hypocrisy would become readily apparent. You'd quickly see that tolerance is a one-way street. No sir, it wouldn't take long for the fur to fly. But you wouldn't read about it in the MSM, of course. But wouldn't it feel good to turn the tables........just for once?
Amen, preach it!!!
I’m all for this.
We are giving up in everything.
It is disheartening.
But America decided over 60 years ago that business owners did not control their businesses and they had to serve the people that the ruling class designated.
And here we are.
The Civil Rights Act is now over 50 years old. It forced quite a few businessmen to provide service to racial groups despite their sincerely held religious beliefs against doing so.
I think their religious beliefs were stupid, but the ideal you describe died 50 years ago, not last week.
There is no inherently logical reason to favor anti-discrimination laws forcing people to rent rooms to black customers while at the same time opposing similar tactics applied to business owners not wanting to provide certain services to gay customers.
Unless it's the fact that you agree with the "homophobic" businessman but disagree with the racist guy.
The problem with any religious exclusion is that it doesn't matter a hoot in hell, logically, whether you or I agree with the beliefs of the person claiming the exclusion.
Oh, there is one other possible reason to allow one exclusion and not the other. That race should be considered a legitimate basis for outlawing discrimination and sexual orientation should not. The problem with that one is that once you start giving such protection to some groups but not others, there's no particular reason to make the distinction other than political popularity.
If I understand correctly, there was such a place that allowed this (though some claim these allegations are apocryphal).
It was called... America...
Hey goodn’mad, we’ve been goodn’had.
Nice thought but not going to happen.
BG has had a taste of choking and looting businesses with massive punitive regulations, endless fees, taxes, policies, costly smothering environmental laws for decades now.
It’ll never be turned back by traditional means.
In fact what you’ll get is more of the same but they’ll double down.
BTW, a lot of this is done intentionally with the motive of killing off the little biz. Big biz are the only one’s who can survive this tsunami of BG oppression.
Nice post.
I think most Americans (other than the gimme crowd) are fed up with “You didn’t build that!” and “Hand over more of your pie.”
Leave business alone!
Yes, liberals complain about lobbying, crony capitalism and corporate welfare.....but business would not lobby if gov’t could not make or break their business with regulations and tax law.
Liberals complain about Citizens United but do not appreciate the fact that companies need to lobby in order to survive.
Liberals would prefer a system where gov’t can regulate and you can redress via lobbying.
Of course, liberals love corporations that support the agenda via lobbying......like green energy or Apple.
When i was in school in Chattanooga, in 1970, The restaurants that did not want to serve blacks just put reservation signs on the tables. there were some. And if i remember at the time the church that ran the school would not accept black members. I just googled the church and school and they are both gone now. wow. they hated the jesus movement too. that’s why i left. Heard Ian Paisley preach there without microphone. You couldn’t swim in a pool with girls. (funny cause in the burbs near philly here we were members of a swim club since i was 5) only dresses on girls, no pants. etc
Look at the number of layoffs, businesses closing, full time jobs cut to part time because of Obamacare, and people that have given up looking if you want to know the truth about the economy. Its not good.
He treats business owners like they should be siphoned if they earn more even though its by their own efforts. No wonder business growth is so slow..
Great piece! Praise be. This one is a keeper.
This madness was planned at least since Karl Marx, but in the 1960’s, Tom Hayden, Jane Fonda’s ex, was a young communist mastermind pushing the envelope and accelerating the process. Radical left student leaders like Tom Hayden (now adjunct professor at Occidental College in Los Angeles, Obama’s dive) realized overt violence would repel most of the middle class. So the lefties went full speed on slow rot of the minds and souls of the youth. Tom Hayden, founder of Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), spearhead of the radical left, has said Obama was their (’60s left) pinnacle creation.
The following is from a 1968 instructional flyer of the Youth International Party (Yipppies) authored by Tom Hayden & Rennie Davis of SDS.
“Disobey your parents, burn your money, you know life is a dream, all of our institutions are manmade illusions effective because YOU take the dream of reality.
Break down the family, church, nation, city, economy; turn life into an art form, a theater of the soul and a theater of the future; the revolutionary is the only artist.
What is needed is a generation of people who are freaky, crazy, irrational, sexy, angry, irreligious, childish, and mad: people who burn draft cards, burn high school and college degrees; people who say: To hell with your goals! People who lure the youth with music, pot, and acid; people who re-define the normal; people who break with the status role title consumer game; people who have nothing material to lose but their flesh.
The white youth of America have more in common with (American) Indians than they do with their own parents. Burn their houses down, and you will be free.”
Source is proceedings of the House Committee on Un-American Activities, Subversive Involvement in Disruption of the (August) 1968 Democratic Party National Convention. (December 1968)
The liberal Borg cube has the momentum. The Federation seems to be completely compromised. We will all be assimilated - or annihilated.
If our planet is indeed the lone miracle of life in the universe, it’s a shame. Humanity seems to be wired to self-destruct. The best days are gone, hope we all got to enjoy some of them. Looks like it’s all downhill from here.
No.
I am not well over a century old. Even if I feel like it at times.
Erik
I think we have a serious problem here that involves activism with sinister intent and business marching in lockstep with it ala Germany in the early 1930’s.
Underlying the Arkansas and Indiana controversies of last week are incidents like Brendan Eich being forced out as CEO at Mozilla for financially supporting anti gay marriage Proposition 8 and Kevin Cochran being forced out as a Fire Chief in Atlanta for writing a religious book critical of homosexuality.
Then we have the stories of the bakers in some states out West and the florist in Washington state.
In Germany in the 1930’s the owner of one of Berlin’s major newspapers was forced to sell and civil servants lost their jobs. The reason was that they were Jews.
In our society today conservative religious people have targets painted on them.
The Constitution and its First Amendment are under direct attack and those of conservative religious belief are being marginalized.
Governor Walker last week spoke of people who are perpetually offended but that lighthearted treatment falls short of describing the real situation.
There are people out to destroy the Constitution and marginalize Americans on the basis of their religious beliefs.
Pastor Niemoller of Germany spoke of “first they came for” this group or that group and he did nothing. I think we are there now.
Years ago I suggested that we start “two cultures” (which we have) with Red money for Proglodytes and Blue money for Patriots. Businesses could be Blue or Red. Problem solved. See how long Red Society lasts on it’s own.
It would certainly end the current uproar. In the meanwhile, businesses may have to quit being “open to the public”. Like buyer’s clubs, they restrict membership. Only provide goods or services to those they choose.
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