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Jade Helm
March 28, 2015 | HarleyLady27

Posted on 03/28/2015 9:10:54 AM PDT by HarleyLady27

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To: Trot

Thanks again, that worked.


41 posted on 03/28/2015 12:47:38 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (The Sting of a Reproach is the Truth of it. Ben Franklin)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Oh our troops won’t fire on us they said.....
Oh we don’t have to worry, our troops won’t follow Obama they said......


42 posted on 03/28/2015 12:49:04 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (The Sting of a Reproach is the Truth of it. Ben Franklin)
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To: carriage_hill

Chaz (rolling eyes and swooning)


43 posted on 03/28/2015 12:50:34 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (The Sting of a Reproach is the Truth of it. Ben Franklin)
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To: Shimmer1

This is a touchy one..


44 posted on 03/28/2015 1:12:03 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: EEGator

Matt’s smokin’ hot sister.


45 posted on 03/28/2015 1:13:23 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Crim

We should alway oppose the US military practicing large-scale, multi-theater manuevers that require extensive deployment coordination, logistic and support integration, exercising cross-service communication networks, meshing joint forces, alinging missions and war plans, just to see what works, what does not, and get lessons learned and improve and therefore save American lives.

(Do I have to?) /sarc


46 posted on 03/28/2015 1:37:35 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Shamrock-DW

Well stated. Proud of you.


47 posted on 03/28/2015 1:38:28 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: EEGator
She was a hot chick in a Bond film?...

Matt's sister?

48 posted on 03/28/2015 1:40:47 PM PDT by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: boycott
“I honestly don’t trust our current leadership that much.”

True. Me too.

But I trust the Spec Ops guys and the US military. They are far greater patriots than most of America. They are, after all, serving their country, selfless service to defend the Constitution, not a person.

49 posted on 03/28/2015 1:42:01 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: backwoods-engineer; Shamrock-DW; Travis McGee
Travis McGee's trilogy of books (”All Enemies Foreign and Domestic”) are excellent. But note this, while in his books there are a few military types that cave and turn traitor, it is the overwhelming majority of American citizens that embrace the horror.

His Spec Ops and military guys are the resistance—the good guys—not the enemy.

50 posted on 03/28/2015 1:46:49 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: HarleyLady27
I'm putting on my tinfoil hat and saying two things about the name of this operation:

Jade Helm

Jade is not a completely standard color, some people might simply call it Green. That would make it Operation Green Helmet.

Anyone remember Green Helmet Guy?


A liar who pushed for radical Islam.

Second point:

Jade Helm -- JDH
Jihad -- JHD

Call me crazy, but I think Obama is kicking off Operation Jihad on US soil. Of course, he'd deny that -- but he's a liar who pushes for radical Islam. Just like Green Helmet Guy.

51 posted on 03/28/2015 1:51:42 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Victim" -- some people eagerly take on the label because of the many advantages that come with it.)
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To: Shimmer1
this just in...




52 posted on 03/28/2015 2:11:55 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Hulka

But I trust the Spec Ops guys and the US military. They are far greater patriots than most of America.


True. Unfortunately, so many of the good ones at the top are being replaced with political hacks.


53 posted on 03/28/2015 2:45:44 PM PDT by boycott
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To: Hulka
I think you are being optimistic, Several surveys indicate you are wrong. Here is one.

http://www.knology.net/~bilrum/UN29palms.htm

54 posted on 03/28/2015 2:53:59 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Shamrock-DW; backwoods-engineer

This is what I have to say on JH-15, an essay I wrote last week. If you have any disagreements, please be specific and reply to a given paragraph or sentence. Don’t say, “That’s just conspiracy kook stuff! Jade Helm is just like Robin Sage or Solid Shield,” or I’ll know you are not up to a serious discussion, and I won’t waste our time. I’m mostly off grid these days, so if I don’t reply right away, it’s not meant as a slight.

“Operation Jade Conditioning”
By Matt Bracken
March 2014

First, let’s cover what Joint Military Exercise Jade Helm 15 is not: it is not a covert plan for the military to conquer the Southwest and institute martial law. And no, the hundreds of special operations troops and thousands of other military personnel taking part in Jade Helm 15 are not bad guys who are out to establish tyranny in America. Those are straw man arguments, posited to be rejected.
But the elimination of the straw men does not mean that Jade Helm 15 is benign. Reality check, please: does anybody reading this seriously believe that President Obama is contemplating dropping thousands of American troops across an area as vast as the space covered by Syria, Iraq, Iran, Yemen and Egypt? If you believe that, then I will give you a special discount when you buy any two of the eleven New York metro area bridges and tunnels that I currently own.

Many will say, “But the Green Berets have been doing this kind of thing with exercises like Robin Sage for years and years. It’s exactly the same thing. It’s no big deal.” These people are either paid shills, or well-meaning but naïve dupes. Note the motto of Jade Helm 15: “Master the human domain.” From our military to our intelligence agencies to federal law enforcement, Social Network Analysis is a booming field, a field which is now stretched to include imposters and liars paid by the post to influence social media trends. This government-sponsored social media influencing begins in the understandable realm of legitimate foreign counter-terrorism, but today the all-seeing eye is increasingly aimed inward at perceived domestic threats.

FTX Robin Sage and similar legitimate exercises typically take place across a few counties and involve coordination at the sheriff and state police level. The volunteer role-players are often old Special Forces guys or local farmers. One of them that I know was a decorated MACV/SOG hero who for years after his retirement played a mysterious guerrilla chieftain for the newbie Q-coursers. And in a younger age, I ran with a crowd that that pretended to blow up radio towers, bridges and fuel dumps with simulated demolition charges. We also did cross-country movements and escape and evasion training exercises in and out of uniform with a variety of weapons. This was done with the knowledge of the local authorities, to avoid people getting shot due to misidentification when crossing public and private spaces.

But Robin Sage and other training exercises were never scaled up to become regional show-stopping extravaganzas spread across six large Western states, requiring real-time coordination between multiple governors, state police departments, county and city law enforcement jurisdictions, federal law enforcement agencies, and active duty military units from all branches of the service. No, Jade Helm is not Robin Sage. It’s not even Robin Sage on steroids.

Will there be Robin Sage elements to Jade Helm? Of course. Embedded reporters will no doubt be sending back live video, visually establishing the overtly benign and beneficial impact of the exercise as Green Berets and SEALs freefall and fast-rope into their insertion points. An analysis of some of the information gleaned from the Jade Helm 15 informational packet suggests that some of the spec-ops troops will participate in cross-country movements of greater than fifty miles, humping rifles and rucks from Texas into New Mexico among other land routes. But that camo-paint and boot-leather Robin Sage visual is just camouflage for the genuine objectives of Jade Helm 15, which in my opinion are twofold:

First: conditioning Americans to accept increasingly frequent and intrusive military and paramilitary police actions up close and personal. These will include low-altitude over-flights by military aircraft at all hours, plus roadblocks, checkpoints and denied out-of-bounds areas declared during so-called “realistic military training exercises” in and around Anytown, USA. Some of the military participants might be dressed as civilians, or even as enemy terrorists—foreign or domestic. That is to say, the troops will not necessarily be identifiable to John Q. Public as good old G.I. Joe. Instead, they might be dressed up like Jihad John, or even Redneck Jake. We will be told to mind our business, stay indoors, and trust those in authority who can see “the big picture.”

“Hey Martha, what’s all that noise and commotion? It sounds like World War Three is breaking out across the highway downtown!”

“Oh, don’t worry, George. The Army is just doing another urban warfare drill. I saw it on TV.”

Google keywords like “military drill training exercise urban warfare helicopters” and see how many of our cities have already been treated to simulated “Black Hawk Down” battles, complete with booming explosions, midnight helicopters swooping at rooftop level, and plenty of ratatat-tat. Step by step we are being conditioned to living in a battlefield state of mind. Full dress rehearsals for all-out urban warfare are becoming the new normal in the Land of the Free.

To what purpose? Well, to what purpose does the chef slowly turn up the heat under the frog pot? If and when the time comes that the federal government decides to eliminate some pesky nests of sedition in the name of national security, folks living just a few miles away will simply yawn and change television channels, placid as cows chewing cud. Operation Jade Conditioning: mission accomplished.

The second objective of Joint Military Exercise Jade Helm 15 is to practice simultaneously operating all of the control levers of armed federal power on American soil, from major military units and federal law enforcement agencies down to the state police and local law enforcement. (Posse Comitatus? Heavens, no. It’s just a training exercise!)

When the time comes to eliminate those pockets of bitterly-clinging dead-enders standing in the way of social progress that Team Obama seems to hate with far greater vigor than it hates the Islamic State or Al Qaeda, the federal bosses will already know which county sheriffs and chiefs of police are “reliable.” That is, reliable in the KGB or Stasi meaning of the world. Click your heels, Sheriff, and set up the roadblocks as instructed. It’s a federal order! Do it just like we did it last year.

Again, it’s Operation Jade Conditioning. Ditto for our generals being conditioned to take orders from civilian bureaucrats for military deployments directly into American cities and towns.

That’s my opinion. Or, you can choose to believe that President Obama is actually getting our military primed and ready for simultaneous spec-ops team insertions across the entire Middle East from Egypt to Iran, and Syria to Yemen, the same geographical area covered by Joint Military Exercise Jade Helm 15.

It’s your choice to believe that, if you wish.


55 posted on 03/28/2015 4:46:49 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
That’s my opinion. Or, you can choose to believe that President Obama is actually getting our military primed and ready for simultaneous spec-ops team insertions across the entire Middle East from Egypt to Iran, and Syria to Yemen, the same geographical area covered by Joint Military Exercise Jade Helm 15.

It’s your choice to believe that, if you wish.

"Alex, I'll take Matt Bracken for $1000."

56 posted on 03/28/2015 4:58:39 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Travis McGee

“Some of the military participants might...”
And they might not.

The last chance our military had to get experience in very large scale escape and evasion was WW2 or, arguably, the Korean War.
The SOF don’t need Jade Helm-15, but the command and control people do. Things have changed a lot since 1950.

But I wouldn’t want to see this more often than every couple of generations or so- for the reasons you stated.


57 posted on 03/28/2015 5:19:14 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Travis McGee

I wonder if the road blocks will have drones covering them?


58 posted on 03/28/2015 5:22:24 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: HarleyLady27

Personally, I’m not overly worried, and I’ll explain why.

The left hates the military, and more importantly, they are *contemptuous* of the military. They truly believe that the *only* reason people join the military is that “they are too dumb to hold minimum wage jobs.”

This leads to the left embracing two very bad axioms about the military. The first is that, because military personnel are so stupid, that what they do can be done by anyone with a gun. Remember how years ago, Obama had dreams of raising his own personal army from ghetto scum, gang bangers, and other “yoots”?

The other axiom is hilariously bad: that military personnel are mindless drones and will obey any orders that anyone gives them.

The left truly thinks that some leftist apparatchik can just show up and order a military unit around as if he were their commanding officer.

Which brings us to the current situation.

Elite forces in the military are far more conservative than even the regular forces, who are very conservative as a group.

They have been told they are on a training exercise. And as long as they are, fine, and they will train long and hard. But if some political henchman decides he can make mischief with them, like ordering them to arrest people, I can imagine some truly ugly scenarios.

Ugly to the political henchman, that is.

What I don’t see them doing is mindlessly obeying orders to attack American citizens. The 1 in 100 who might do that won’t do it, either, because he knows his comrades would make short shrift of him like any other enemy.


59 posted on 03/28/2015 7:15:13 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Bingo.

We even have our own NG airwing right outside toledo.

And my nephew is stationed there.


60 posted on 03/28/2015 7:29:15 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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