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OS X: Back to the Beginning
Gene Steinberg's TechNightOwl ^ | March 26, 2015 | Gene Steinberg

Posted on 03/26/2015 9:48:22 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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To: Swordmaker
One of my long-time clients actually has a Power Mac from around 2000 or so still running Mac OS 9

Hardware that uses lead based solder tends to last much longer than the newer stuff with tighter dimensions between components on the boards and using tin based solders.

21 posted on 03/27/2015 5:39:48 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: dennisw
First you said:
> Windows 8 looks very good. Much better than any Apple OS. I like the Windows 8 GUI better than Windows 7....

Then you said:
> I never use the Windows 8 so called apps and I bypass the apps tiles. All that stuff is for touch devices such as tablets and smartfones. When I boot up I go from log-on to desktop with ye old start button

You just said two things that disagree completely -- your statements contradict each other. Oh well.

IMO the Windows 8 GUI has a look and feel very much like the Windows 3.11 GUI from 1993. In fact, it's nearly identical. I know, I used 3.11 a lot back in the day.

Face it. Windows 8 is a fine operating system with a terrible user interface which even Microsoft now admits was as misguided as Vista's. Hopefully Windows 10 will be better. The Technical Preview isn't half bad.

OS-X, on the other hand, is a fine operating system with a pretty damn good user interface as of Mavericks. I'm not a fan of Yosemite, it reminds me of Windows 9 too much.

LOL. What a stupid pasttime, arguing about computers. I'm glad you like what you like. You really should start a Windows Ping List. Seriously, this forum is missing one and I've hoped someone who is a Windows fanboy like yourself would start one, I'd join up -- I have 5 Windows machines at home and around 120 at work and would appreciate it.

But please, take your silly self-contradiction about Windows away from my early morning reading and go bother some other thread. This is an Apple thread. Thanks.

22 posted on 03/27/2015 6:06:32 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: dayglored; dennisw
Correction:

> ...it reminds me of Windows 9...

8. The key next to 9. More coffee.

23 posted on 03/27/2015 6:08:54 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is...sounding pretty good about now.)
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To: dayglored

Windows 8 is very sharp and defined via today’s hi-resolution monitors. It is cleaner than Windows 7. It gives me a better feeling using it though I still have and use Windows 7 machines.

The windows 3.1 comparison? I don’t get it. I have seen 3.1 on computers though I really started out with Windows 95


24 posted on 03/27/2015 6:55:50 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dayglored

This is a windows/apple thread. All of them are.


25 posted on 03/27/2015 6:56:28 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dayglored
Ummmm, no. *cough* Unix *cough* Linux *cough*

Yeah, multiple desktops is one of the things I think Linux does best. I normally run 8.  Everything I run regularly has a place, so I always know where stuff is. I couldn't live without multiple desktops.

26 posted on 03/27/2015 7:20:39 AM PDT by zeugma ( The Clintons Could Find a Loophole in a Stop Sign)
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To: glorgau

“Hardware that uses lead based solder tends to last much longer than the newer stuff with tighter dimensions between components on the boards and using tin based solders.”
True - whiskers cause damage.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/21151552/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/danger-lead-free-electronics-tin-whiskers/#.VRWUXVxNG24

“... Tiny splinters — whiskers, they’re called — that sprout without warning from tin solder and finish deep inside electronics.”

“... Trouble arises when the whiskers bridge separate parts of increasingly miniaturized circuit boards. They also can flake off and interfere with sensitive optics.
While scientists debate their cause, they agree on one thing: Small amounts of lead mixed with the tin have been remarkably effective at preventing whisker eruptions for decades.”

Tin whiskers are causing failures in missile systems, pacemakers, nuclear-power plants, and many other electronic systems. So yes, the longevity of newer electronics is in question compared to older lead-solder based systems. We’re in a disposable society, so components can be easily replaced but critical systems still try to use lead solder when possible.


27 posted on 03/27/2015 10:44:53 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: Swordmaker; Talisker

The possibly more expensive, but less work, version would be to connect a PowerPC box to your network, install a VNC server on it, and run it remotely. If it’s capable of running Leopard or later, Apple’s Screen Sharing works well. G4 iBooks and Mac Minis are routinely under $100, and sometimes as little as $20, on eBay, and you can do cheaper or free if you’re patient enough.


28 posted on 03/27/2015 4:32:12 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: Swordmaker
One of my long-time clients actually has a Power Mac from around 2000 or so still running Mac OS 9, and still working perfectly.

I still have the Mac Plus I bought used in 1991. I upgraded it to a whopping 4 MB of RAM. I also have a couple of SCSI hard drives for it, and one of my projects (back-burnered for years) is to find a way to set up System on the drive and connect the Plus to the Internet. I have an early-generation G3 Powerbook with both a serial port and Ethernet that I'm pretty sure I can set up as a gateway.

29 posted on 03/27/2015 4:40:51 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

Thank you for telling me! I always come on Apple threads to read what PC users have. It’s just so intriguing! Not.


30 posted on 03/28/2015 5:24:38 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nom Nom Nom)
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To: bobo1

If there were real pro audio apps for Linux and major 3rd party plugin vendors had linux versions of their products it would be a very happy day here in my music studio.


31 posted on 03/31/2015 5:02:57 AM PDT by TheStickman
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To: Swordmaker

10.9.5 will be my os till I have no choice but to move to Yosemite. Staying a year or more behind the newest OSX flavor works well for me & my music studio.


32 posted on 03/31/2015 5:06:26 AM PDT by TheStickman
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