Cannot win national primary. Why not? Let him get his message on a national stage. He conveys the conservative message as eloquently as anyone I have ever heard. Let the other republicans address the issues he raises and discuss how best our current situation in this country should be handled. Is there a better voice for Capitalism and a Constitutional Republic? I honestly think this man can make the average American consider issues that most of us can agree on and the proper course of action needed. Hello moderates wake up and listen.
Too extreme. What is extreme? Can we cite Obamas stance on pretty much every issue since day 1? Can anyone name an issue Cruz is extreme on? Most cite the government shutdown. Not popular, but I would like to use a phrase people on the opposite side of the fence politically speaking .. Raising awareness of government mismanagement. The budget is not sustainable! Embarrassing the establishment republicans by actually showing them a spine and a testicle or 2 exist in this party that is becoming embarrassing is a goos thing in my opinion,
Has no accomplishments to speak of. My favorite criticism of Ted Cruz because it makes me laugh and I think many moderates can gather around this one. WE DONT WANT ANOTHER CAREER POLITICIAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE! Good night, the electorate voted in a 1st term Senator from Illinois that voted Present more often than not, and had NO experience or qualifications, and ran on Hope and Change. We cant even find college records or an original birth certificate for this guy. We need ideas and plans to make things better, based on a PROVEN history that conservatism and capitalist methods WORK, not ESTABLISHMENT party members to get along and work together, to pass a few hundred more regulations to impose on the citizens in the name of making a name for your parasitic congress-person self..
Summary This is the 1st candidate that represents me since I began voting. No one speaks for me as well as Cruz does. The 1st time I voted, it was for Regan in 84. Let Teds ideas be heard on the most national stage we can get him to. Give people rational choices, and let common sense prevail. If we as a nation are not ready for change that benefits this nation as a whole, I will hold my nose and vote and vote for another Bush, Dole, W, McCain, Romney.. but Dear Lord, lets give a Ted Cruz a shot!
Thanks guys take care,
Ken
dang touchpad on laptop- didn;t get a chance to edit, but close enough ;)
Welcome back! You should spend more time around this joint! :)
Most of the vanity threads in the last day on Cruz have not ended well for the former freepers who posted them. This one appears to be an exception.
“Which of his parents was Canadian?”
Neither.
Have we just heard from the Cruz campaign?
Ted was born in Canada
You are not alone!
Listen dude or dudet, Cruz is a citzen by birth......good lord, his mother was a citizen.
Cruz is an unapologetic conservative, if that’s not enough don’t support him.
The Republican senator from Texas says he can. And just to be sure, hes taking the extra step of renouncing the Canadian citizenship he says he didnt even know he had.
Cruz -- full name: Rafael Edward Cruz --was born in Canada in 1970 because his father was working for the oil industry there. The senators recently released birth certificate shows his mother was born in Delaware and his father was born in Cuba. The Cruz family left Canada a few years later. Cruz grew up in Texas and graduated from high school there, later attending Princeton University and Harvard Law School.
By virtue of his American-born mother, Cruz, 42, considers himself a natural born citizen and eligible to run for president.
IBTZ /s
I hope you really meant: this is the 1st candidate that represents me since Reagan. Or did in fact Reagan not represent you?
Just like you, I haven’t been on FR in a good, long while; 2008, I think. I don’t know if anyone will even remember me. Decided to come back and take a peek, and amazingly, remembered my username and password.
I’m excited about Ted Cruz, I like what he’s said so far and I really like how he’s handled himself.
Gladly the Cruz you’d bear?
Good summary - eligible and ready to go. I am finally excited and hopeful again.
> “Natural born citizen issue. Which of his parents was Canadian? I can see Canada issuing a certificate of birth that only makes sense. If my child was born in a foreign country while we are there working or visiting, that doesnt change the fact that one or both or the childs parents are American citizens.. Was there Canadian citizenship applied for by his parents that we dont know about? Not from what I have been able to gather. A country cannot take a child and keep it as far as I know. Mom is an American citizen, and Dad was trying to gain citizen status in the US. I think this is a non-issue.”
Ted Cruz never embraced his status as a Canadian citizen which was conferred on him at birth by simply being born on Canadian soil and never by request of his parents. To remove any doubt as to his allegiance to the United States he formally renounced his Canadian citizenship last year.
HISTORY
Madison settled the question more than 200 years ago. In that time if a child was born of an American citizen father with a ***domicile*** in the United States, the child was a natural born citizen. Now because of women’s suffrage and the 14th Amendment, the citizenship status of a child’s mother also confers citizenship as well as from the father.
An Americans wife at the time of Madison was not allowed the right to vote and was folded in with her husband in terms of nationality and culture. In other words it was the man and his ***domicile*** that determined whether natural born citizenship was conferred.
The term domicile is distinct from residence (more on this below).
When early Americans were sailing the seas or residing abroad, they were considered loyal to the United States if they maintained a domicile INSIDE the United States. They could reside abroad but maintain a domicile inside the United States. For example, Thomas Jefferson resided in Paris as the US Ambassador while maintaining his domicile in Virginia at Monticello.
The parents of Ted Cruz ‘resided’ in Canada for work purposes but kept their ‘domicile’ in the USA. The distinction is not trivial or trumped up. It’s a legal distinction that is on the books of many states in regards to marriage and divorce. For example, in New York, if one American and one European marry in Manhattan and then leave to live in Europe and later one of them returns to Manhattan and files for annulment of the marriage, the Court in Manhattan will have jurisdiction if the American maintained a ‘domicile’ (which is defined clearly in New York law) in New York during their time in Europe. Maintaining a domicile could be shown by simply maintaining a postal address for receiving postal mail.
The question came to Madison as to how to determine citizenship for children born at sea. This was not a rare event as many ocean voyages lasted weeks and months. Further, if an American and his family were stationed abroad such as employed in the Foreign Service like a consulate or embassy, then children born abroad of a citizen father were considered natural born.
The natural born requirement originated in correspondence and communication between John Jay and General George Washington. Jay was concerned that Presidents as Commanders-in-Chief would be capable of establishing a tyranny on the people using the Army. The proposal was to ensure ALLEGIANCE and LOYALTY by requiring children to be natural born meaning born to a citizen father and citizen mother. Dual citizenship was never an option in that era. Mothers were expected to fold in with their husbands as to allegiance, loyalty, citizenship, residence and domicile.
A mother needed not be a natural citizen or even a citizen at the time of her marriage to an American. As soon as she married a US citizen she automatically became a US citizen. Even if she was native Indian, German, English, French etc. she at once became a US citizen through marriage to a US Citizen. Dual citizenship was never an option and divorce was extremely rare so there wasnt much confusion or conflict as to a married womans status.
In light of the 14th Amendment and its abuses, the US Supreme Court and Congress must weigh in at some point to clarify issues of ALLEGIANCE and LOYALTY which are the underlying issues of the term natural born.
We now have a President whose allegiance and loyalty are questioned. And we have a foreign born candidate whose allegiance and loyalty are above reproach. Its time for our best jurists, historians and philosophers to work at shining a light in this current era of divorce, independence of women, dual citizenship, ease of migration, fast long distance travel and so on, to determine what eligibility criteria can ensure with high confidence the characteristics of ALLEGIANCE and LOYALTY in a President, how these criteria may define ‘natural born citizen’ and how to ensure these characteristics of ALLEGIANCE and LOYALTY are successfully transmitted across generations.
Ted Cruz’s announcement has brought a new element of hope back into American politics. I had forgotten what that felt like after all these years...