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Top Five Overrated Rifle Cartridges
NRA American Hunter ^ | 3/23/2015 | Philip Massaro

Posted on 03/23/2015 7:35:33 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

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To: tumblindice
The Russian AK74 round was a clear violation of the Geneva convention on the use of non expanding projectiles.

I attended a classified (at Ft Irwin because of the early time after capture of a few 74s) briefing on the AK74 and was shown the cross section of the round with the thin nose over a hollow cavity. Quite clear what the intent was.

Now that the 74 is mainstream, I am curious if the early bullet design carried on or went conventional.

Anyone jnow?

61 posted on 03/23/2015 9:24:32 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69
Edson range at Pendleton for me. I do not envy your for the bugs.

The bugs in Beautiful Beaufort by the sea, where I spent most of my childhood, weren't all that bad.

62 posted on 03/23/2015 9:26:46 PM PDT by null and void (He who kills a tyrant (i.e. an usurper) to free his country is praised and rewarded ~ Thomas Aquinas)
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To: Do the math

I’m a larger guy but don’t really care for the recoil of the 30-06. It’s just a perception but the .270 seems a tad less.


63 posted on 03/23/2015 9:29:15 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Do the math

Sadly most of ghe budget rifles no longer offer iron sights. Big mistake imo.


64 posted on 03/23/2015 9:37:00 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I used to have a Remington 700 BDL in 6mm Remington with a nice Leupold scope. Great accurate hunting rifle that I lost in a boating accident.


65 posted on 03/23/2015 9:38:28 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: doorgunner69

I’m reminded of something gunwriter Pat Sweeney wrote in his seminal book on the Automat Kalashnakov: “If the Soviets could have made bullets out of concrete, they would have.”
Yeah, those bullets had some dead space. Made ‘em tumble but I didn’t know it made them expand. I like the Wolf softpoints.


66 posted on 03/23/2015 9:42:14 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Mastador1

I had a 444 Marlin. The 250gr Nosler partitions would probably do the job if they were not at the bottom of the river. The hard cast lead flat nose in 320 gr would do five feet of anything.


67 posted on 03/23/2015 9:51:32 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For views of Colorado scenery and wildlife, clic k on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

.30-06 is the greatest of all rifle cartridges, as is .45 ACP.


68 posted on 03/23/2015 10:02:44 PM PDT by karnage
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To: Bulwyf

God Bless You for your service!


69 posted on 03/23/2015 10:03:40 PM PDT by karnage
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To: AbnSarge

Thank You for your service!


70 posted on 03/23/2015 10:04:07 PM PDT by karnage
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To: USNBandit

I have a 308 SCAR, here in Alaska we hunt with ARs. Killed a bunch of caribou and blk bear with the Scar. I watched my nephew kill a grizzly at 300 yards with my Scar with TTSX’s & A-Frames mixed in the mag Now I’ve killed bou at 300 yards and bear outta the stand with the 6.8. I usually stick to my 30-378 Weatherby or 338 Fed with moose, but last year had the Scar with me road hunting. I have 3.5 X 35 Acog red dot on Scar. Missed a moose running through the trees at 350 yards, 7-8 times. First moose I haven’t knocked down in over 20 years; but can’t believe I didn’t hit him; and he kept going. So anyway, no more semi autos for mew with the moose; I’m sticking with Mark V. Say what you will about 308s & 800 yard shots; I don’t trust 308 in semi autos nowadays.


71 posted on 03/23/2015 10:06:21 PM PDT by Eska
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To: karnage

.45 ACP greatest of all handgun cartridges. Try finishing your thought next time...


72 posted on 03/23/2015 10:07:41 PM PDT by karnage
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To: tumblindice
Yeah, those bullets had some dead space. Made ‘em tumble but I didn’t know it made them expand.

Just repeating what the briefer told us. Sure looked like a deliberate attempt to increase wound damage. Expanding or deliberate tumbling = multiplied wound trauma, same-same, but clever sidestep. The Russians knew their enemy in Afghanistan and had no crippling ROE.

73 posted on 03/23/2015 10:21:14 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: USNBandit

I so want an SCAR-17H. Ultimate .308 semiauto..


74 posted on 03/23/2015 10:32:57 PM PDT by RitchieAprile (Let's Go Eat Dhedo)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

if we are going to say the .458 - then we ought to be talking about the 45/70 as well....both have the ballistic trajectories of the st Louis arch. As for the .223 - Im in agreement, ..but am scratching my head on the .270 which is a pretty great round.


75 posted on 03/24/2015 3:42:31 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Bulwyf

thank you - it is a great round


76 posted on 03/24/2015 3:45:10 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: doorgunner69

500m with iron sights is some darn fine shooting. I have some optics on, so going 1000 yards isn’t bad. My buddy has a beefed up Remington 700, and he has shot it out to 1500 yards with a 10 inch group. It’s a versatile round heh.


77 posted on 03/24/2015 3:55:18 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: karnage

Thank you karnage, although it may not be over yet, we shall see what happens in the next little bit.


78 posted on 03/24/2015 3:56:07 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Blood of Tyrants

No the article doesn’t make me mad but it does make me laugh. Pretty much everything he states is just his opinion based on little data and even less field experience, then throw in a scoop of almost as good. My favorite rifles are my Weatherby’s, I’ve been shooting the 257, 300 and 340 longer than I suspect the author of this article has walked this earth. The 270 WSM is another good round that fills a void left from the 270 Win’s lack of case capacity. While I don’t carry my 220 Swift as much as I used to it’s an excellent varmint round and has stacked up over 200 coyotes so far. The rifle that spends the most time with me on the ranch is a 527 CZ in 223 and I don’t see it getting replaced any time soon. The one caliber that I feel is overrated that didn’t make the list should have by his own standards and that’s the 308. There’s too many 30 cal’s that shoot circles around it. It’s mediocre in both velocity and ft-lbs.


79 posted on 03/24/2015 4:12:10 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: Blood of Tyrants

For later. Thanks.


80 posted on 03/24/2015 4:16:40 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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