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Cruz unlikely to face same 'birther' questions as Obama did
ny daily news ^ | 3-23-2015 | ADAM EDELMAN

Posted on 03/23/2015 12:06:42 PM PDT by Citizen Zed

The Texas Republican, who on Monday formally announced his 2016 presidential bid, was born in Canada in 1970, sparking chatter in recent years that he did not meet the constitutional requirement that to be eligible to run for the presidency, one must be a natural-born U.S. citizen.

Cruz, who was born to an American mother and a Cuban father who immigrated to the U.S. and later became a naturalized citizen, has repeatedly maintained that he, as the child of a woman who was a U.S. citizen from Delaware, is a natural-born citizen.

Critics have claimed that his being born in Canada indicates he’s not a natural-born citizen.

In fact, the U.S. Constitution simply says that “no person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.”

While a fringe minority of scholars claim that a “natural-born” citizen must have been born on U.S. soil, the prevailing legal interpretation is that “natural-born” simply means being born with U.S. citizen (as opposed to acquiring it later via naturalization).

A detailed memo produced by the Congressional Research Service in 2009 — to help quell “birthers” claiming that President Obama hadn’t been eligible for the presidency — largely, if not altogether, put the issue to rest.

“The weight of scholarly legal and historical opinion appears to support the notion that 'natural born Citizen' means one who is entitled under the Constitution or laws of the United States to U.S. citizenship 'at birth' or 'by birth,' including any child born 'in' the United States, the children of United States citizens born abroad, and those born abroad of one citizen parents who has met U.S. residency requirements," the agency said in the memo.

(Excerpt) Read more at m.nydailynews.com ...


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Too late. The ladies on The View have already begun.
1 posted on 03/23/2015 12:06:42 PM PDT by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

After two presidential elections and Obama finishing up his second term in office, this boat has sailed.


2 posted on 03/23/2015 12:08:45 PM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Yeah, it’ll be 100X worse. That’s what they meant, right?


3 posted on 03/23/2015 12:09:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Citizen Zed

There are three main sources of law in our republic; the Constitution, the legislative process and court precedent. Before Obama, I would not have accepted Cruz as eligible. The courts have been given ample opportunity to invalidate Obama based on his birth details. If the courts have ruled, either proactively or by default that Obama is legitimate then Cruz certainly is.


4 posted on 03/23/2015 12:16:24 PM PDT by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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-- If the courts have ruled, either proactively or by default that Obama is legitimate then Cruz certainly is. --

One thing I have learned in the study of law is that courts are inconsistent. Each case stands on its own. There is sufficient precedent to support any outcome the judges prefer.

5 posted on 03/23/2015 12:19:04 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
There is sufficient precedent to support any outcome the judges prefer.

Exactly. Dem Rule Book, Rule #2:
If you do not get the desired outcome, change the rules.

6 posted on 03/23/2015 12:23:15 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I've been to the 15th broken moon of the Medusa Cascade & the diamond coral reefs of Kataa Flo Ko.)
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To: muir_redwoods

the fraud is still illegal and ineligible.

It is not “fringe” to suggest a logical, consistent and strict standard. BOTH parents, not one. Jurisdictional issues over the child linger on unresolved.

Moreover, the tenor the 14th Amendment is clear. NO, as in NONE, NADA, ZIPPOLA conflicting loyalties to another country.

I remain disgusted with the self-serving sacrifice of clear principle and clear intent that guided the genius of our Framers. It has only seen since the fraud showed up that there has been the kind of garbled, inconsistent, and destructive thinking about what defines eligibility and what defines natural born. Wake up, for Christ’s sake.


7 posted on 03/23/2015 12:23:36 PM PDT by bioqubit
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To: Cboldt

“The Texas Republican, who on Monday formally announced his 2016 presidential bid, was born in Canada in 1970, sparking chatter in recent years that he did not meet the constitutional requirement that to be eligible to run for the presidency, one must be a natural-born U.S. citizen.”

Not sure if the self lathing author remembers but it was Obama himself who said he was born in Kenya. DO they really think his book jacket announcing that he was born in Kenya didn’t raise a few eyebrows?


8 posted on 03/23/2015 12:24:49 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Islam is the military wing of the Communist party.)
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To: Citizen Zed

We have seen a real physical copy of Ted Cruz’s birth certificate. As for President Obama.... (sound of crickets)


9 posted on 03/23/2015 12:31:37 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Citizen Zed
if the dems play the natural born citizen card, that will mean they have concluded that only a natural born citizen can be the president. EVERYBODY knows that obozo (his proclaimed father being from Kenya) is not a natural born citizen so in that case, his presidency and everything he's done would be null and void. Obozo could submit to a DNA analysis to prove that Frank Marshal Davis is his real father thus he was in fact eligible, but then what about all of the fraudulent docs and the blocked records about his past? This is mute issue because the dems/establishment will not play that card. They've already killed our Constitution.
10 posted on 03/23/2015 12:33:44 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: Citizen Zed

There’s the political bandwagon of second and third generation Americans, shouting from the coasts, pining for the old country, its religion, and refusing to assimilate. Oh, those aren’t musical instruments, and that bunch is ready to fire on any whole Americans who disagree with them.


11 posted on 03/23/2015 12:42:06 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Citizen Zed

There is native born citizen or a citizen born on US soil.

There is a citizen born with a birthright or a person born with the right to claim citizenship inherited from one of their parents or both parents.

And then there is a natural born citizen or a citizen who is free of foreign state obligations.


12 posted on 03/23/2015 12:53:25 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
-- ... it was Obama himself who said he was born in Kenya. DO they really think his book jacket announcing that he was born in Kenya didn't raise a few eyebrows? --

Or the brief bio of the author, which he had his peeps dismiss as inaccurate and un-reviewed by Obama.

Obama's a bald-faced liar and a fraud. I still don't fathom how he manages to bamboozle and charm so many people. At least the Wizard of Oz was a charming BS artist. This one, all he has is the gift of angry gab.

13 posted on 03/23/2015 12:57:04 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Citizen Zed

ADAM EDELMAN = RACIST


14 posted on 03/23/2015 1:04:08 PM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry (Every time you vote for a democrat, you put another nail in the coffin of the USA.....)
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To: ansel12
After two presidential elections and Obama finishing up his second term in office, this boat has sailed.

I believe that Pandora's box was cracked by the left constantly dismissing "Birther" claims of Obama's legitimacy. If they attack Cruz on the same grounds, they're collectively shooting themselves in the foot, because it will bring back all of the questions about Obama, and I believe it will show that he was not qualified after all.

15 posted on 03/23/2015 1:05:07 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: ansel12
After two presidential elections and Obama finishing up his second term in office, this boat has sailed.

I believe that Pandora's box was cracked by the left constantly dismissing "Birther" claims of Obama's legitimacy. If they attack Cruz on the same grounds, they're collectively shooting themselves in the foot, because it will bring back all of the questions about Obama, and I believe it will show that he was not qualified after all.

16 posted on 03/23/2015 1:05:07 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Finally Canada has some skin in the game! I am reminded of the saying when the Blue Jays won the world series in 1992 and 93. Our Americans beat their Americans. Not that Ted Turner was that American for the 92 series. One of the best laughs was when someone at the Toronto Sun dredged up a photo of Jane Fonda wearing a Blue Jay jersey (some years before marrying Ted) and plastering it on the front page.


17 posted on 03/23/2015 1:07:26 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Citizen Zed

The location of Birth is not as relevant as fathers national ties... native born and natural born are not interchangeable. To this day Obama is not a natural born citizen as his father is and always was a foreign national..

But we’ve dumbed people down to the point that facts don’t matter.


18 posted on 03/23/2015 1:10:30 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: bioqubit

Everything you say is true as is this. A court precedent has been set and if the courts rule that white is black and up is down, for legal purposes, those are true statements.

It sucks but that’s the law. Just like legalized murder in Row v Wade.


19 posted on 03/23/2015 1:51:11 PM PDT by muir_redwoods ("He is a very shallow critic who cannot see an eternal rebel in the heart of a conservative." G.K .C)
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To: Citizen Zed

No longer a relevant question thanks to Mr “No Documents” Obama.


20 posted on 03/23/2015 2:19:29 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ($$$$$ Don't Defund the Government...Defund Obama and his illegal policies $$$$$)
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