Posted on 03/20/2015 8:56:04 PM PDT by Steelfish
No one thing works for everyone, everywhere, at all times. People change, circumstances change, and times change.
The real problem with these fancy theories is that they are experimenting with someone elses body.
No. Not my body, thank you. They can experiment on their own.
I know what works for me. I'm pushing 2500 calories a day to try to go from 101 lbs to over 110 lbs.
That applies only to me, and hours of real spreadsheet work, not wikicrap. I wouldn't think of trying to push that on anyone.
Lots here think they have the one answer for everyone.
/johnny
The “food pyramid” is all wrong for some of us, especially diabetics.
Not everyone can do a marathon; but most people can walk.
And eat calories below a certain limit.
It really isn't that complicated. It does take discipline however which can be really tough as food does taste good!
So you think it is respectful to your spouse to walk around looking like a high school gym teacher? You think that makes your marriage better?
Ain't that the truth. I think people's genetics have a lot to do with it. I'm not lactose intolerant, thank goodness. Folks who are have to go elsewhere for certain nutrients. Some people can handle soy. Others can't.
I do think that if there's one thing that "works" for everybody, its to seek nutrition in real whole simple foods and avoid man-made supplements if and when possible. I don't buy into the "organic" craze, I even avoid organic veggies.
I just see that people who so carefully use fake sugar, and who so carefully avoid animal fat, and seek fat-free or low-fat versions of normally fat foods ... usually have the hardest time. That loss of weight for me after switching to fat milk was a real shocker.
The food pyramid is all wrong for the human body!
It is for me and Mr. trisham.
Tell that to the majority of folks who still think margarine is "healthier" than butter, or who think lard is bad for you.
I have a friend whose wife is a nurse, very conscious of things like cholesterol, etc. She put him in charge of cooking (he's a good cook), and he started using lard for such things as fish and chicken and biscuits, though she wasn't aware of it. Her cholesterol levels went down. When she told my friend, "Wow, your cooking has helped, what have you been doing?" You had better believe that he knew it was going to be hard for her to get used to the idea that the lard was actually a healthier choice.
Eating stupid and getting zero exercise is fattening. Fat is a necessary nutrient the body needs to process everything else.
I just did my home-made icecream recipe, and it works out to about 335 calories for a 3 oz serving. Lots of real egg yolks and real whipping cream. Raised eyebrows all around, but screw 'em.
I use real lard in my cooking and I won't give that up. The cancer isn't the fault of the food.
But many would think they like to know everything about everyone, and don't mind being obnoxious in providing 'advice' which is purely pointless shaming.
/johnny
They avoid egg-yolks altogether and eat only egg-whites.
Bad info, and old, but lots of young people still believe the BS.
As a former food service professional that still keeps my hand in, I see it all the time.
Food fetishists abound, and they are mostly wrong or contradicted by modern research... which may change.
/johnny
I pinged Mr. K here because I am reporting on increasing home-made "Jello" in my diet for degenerative tissue stuff in my neck. I don't know whether it's because of the increased intake of gelatin, but I've noticed a very marked improvement. THANK YOU, Mr. K, for your suggestion.
I'm even getting my husband to eat it, which is an accomplishment. I make it with just a little sugar, a few tablespoons to mix with the gelatin powder, and then orange juice (from concentrate) or cherry juice (unsweetened), and for grins, some finely chopped walnuts and a can of either mandarin oranges or cherry-rich fruit cocktail, and use the drained liquid as part of the 2 1/3 cups (I think) liquid for the two gelatin packets. MAN is it good, especially with a little bit of whipped cream. And my neck feels a lot better.
Aren't you glad you're lactose tolerant? What a wonderful thing!
/johnny
Except that they aren’t really “clones” at all and even though they share DNA, epigenetics is also believed to play a role in their differences and marked differences in their DNA over time.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/identical-twins-genes-are-not-identical/
http://multiples.about.com/od/funfacts/a/differenttwins.htm
FWIW - I am the great aunt of triplets who are turning 7 years old next week. Two of the three sisters are “identical twins” (2 eggs fertilized by 2 sperm – started out very early as fraternal twins but then one zygote divided after fertilization resulting in triplets) but not only that, the identical twins were monoamniotic twins meaning that they shared the same amniotic sac.
Their fraternal “twin” sister looks quite different from her “identical twin” sisters and did so from birth but even more so as they have gotten older. She is shorter and much, much thinner (although when she was a baby and a toddler, she was the chunkiest, very pudgy, partly in fact due to that she was the smallest and most fragile and sickly at birth and given more preemie formula and higher calorie baby food, in addition to the breast milk to help her catch up), and while blond haired and blue eyed like her sisters, she has darker hair like her mother and different facial features, looking a lot like her mom rather than her triplet sisters who look a lot like their dad and who seems to have inherited his height while the other seems to inherited his tendency toward thinness.
The “identical” twins of the triplets, at birth and for their first year of life were in appearance so identical that their mom and dad put colored bracelets on them and dressed them in different colored outfits in order to tell them apart. That one twin had a mole on her left butt cheek and one on her right thigh while her sister had one, not quite but nearly in the same spot but on her right butt cheek and one on her left thigh and only one has a pronounced birth mark on her belly also helped. Sometimes if I’m not observing closely, even today, even as I spend a lot of time with them, I will get them mixed up now and then.
But it really wasn’t long until their very different personalities and their very individual likes and dislikes started manifesting. And I saw this firsthand as I spent a lot of time and even more so as I lived the same house for nearly 2 years – from the time they were about 1 year old.
Once they started crawling and really interacting with each other and their “big” sister, who is only 11 months older, it started becoming apparent that while they looked very much alike and shared some common traits that they had very different personalities and likes and dislikes from each other.
Even when they were just learning to crawl and not yet talking, things like what toys they most often wanted to play with differed, how they interacted with each other - who would steal toys from her sister - who would fight back and who wouldn’t - who would just find something else to play with, differed greatly; what foods they would eat or spit out were different too, so much so it nearly drove their mom crazy; even their bath times was different – one of them loving bath time – she cried when you took her out of the water, the other acting like water was some sort of acid and screamed bloody murder the whole time, and one sort of in-between – not seeming to care much one way or the other as long as after bath time, she got to run around naked for a bit.
One of the “twins” Lily has a healthy appetite, but mostly meat and potatoes and will ask for 2nd and 3rd helpings at dinner, especially on the meat and potatoes. And she is also a very fast eater, cleaning her plate well before anyone else. She also got caught several times recently raiding the pantry and sneaking food, even sneaking food up to her room. Now at 7 years old, she is not only slightly taller than her identical twin but also now noticeably heavier, heavier to the point her parents have had to keep a close watch on what she eats and restrict to some degree, on the 2nd and 3rd helpings – they don’t deny her but have her sit at the table and be quiet for a while everyone else finishes or get up from the table for a while and then come back if she is truly still feeling hungry for any 2nds.
She also has more of a temper and is much more assertive and “bossy” over her siblings but also does better playing by herself and in fact likes her “alone time” – if her sisters are really annoying her, she will to her credit often quietly go off to her room or to another room to play alone if she gets too frustrated with them. She likes playing with Legos and toy trucks and cars and Nerf guns, watching science shows on TV with her dad, she is a bit of a tomboy and loves math in school; even as a toddler when her stay at home mom was working with the girls, “pre-home schooling” if you will, she observed that Lily was the math whiz but struggled compared to her sisters in leaning her ABC’s and words. She also has a bit of a speech impediment.
Her identical twin sister Madi OTHO is and always has been a picky eater, even when she was just beginning to eat solid foods as a baby. She would eat apples and squash but refused to eat anything green in color. To this day, she turns her nose up at a lot of foods and has a problem if it is too spicy or has a texture or even a color she doesn’t like or is something she hasn’t had before – which is a problem since their dad is a really good and somewhat adventurous cook.
Her fraternal sister Helen is also a picky eater but not nearly as much so and less so as she’s gotten older but she loves sweets and anything spicy most of all – that kid would put Sirracha sauce on just about anything, I saw her ask for Sirracha on French fries instead of ketchup ! But Helen, like her older sister Mel who is also on the thin side, is a real chatter box at the dinner table and both are very slow eaters. Their dad constantly has to tell them to stop talking and “just eat”. It is not unusual for them to leave some food on their plates.
Madi, like her identical twin Lily also has a bit of a temper but that usually stems from her feelings getting hurt more so than from not getting her way. She is extremely sensitive and much more moody than her sisters. She is also loves reading like her “big” sister Mel but most of all she loves art and arts and crafts and music. At Christmas and last month when I spent my birthday with them, Madi gave me so many pictures she drew for me complete with the poems she wrote, some of them surprising good for a 6 year old, that I ran out of room on my refrigerator to post them all. She also performed an original song for me which she wrote herself ; )
She is also more like her fraternal sister Helen in that she loves clothes and jewelry and playing dress up and all things very girly girl. Her “identical twin” sister Lily less so - she will play dress up but often will accessorize with Nerf guns instead of necklaces. LOL!
Helen is the clown of the family, always making goofy faces and trying hard to be funny, telling corny jokes and doing her “crazy dances” and not at all above resorting to making farting sounds to get a laugh and be the center of attention. The one obvious thing the “twins” have in common is rolling their eyes at their triplet sister Helen when she starts going overboard. But Helen is the “little helper”. When their mom or dad or me when I’m babysitting, ask the girls to clean up their toys before dinner or before going to bed, Helen jumps right in and does it the very first time she’s asked and will even gently scold her sisters for not doing their share and ignoring instructions.
My point is that these girls having been raised together from birth by their loving mom and dad and FWIW, in a rather small house – close quarters, sharing rooms, they are so unique and so different from each other, even the “identical twins”, that something other than mere DNA and nurturing and environment must play a role.
Four kids -- all girls ... wow!
Ours also was a rollicking big family of different personalities, except four boys and only one little girl, the "baby," me. The twins changed my dad from a skeptic into a believer in many ways. He used to say, "One of them eats the prune, the other one spits out the seed." One time, when they were toddlers, Mom found them sound asleep curled up together under a bush in the yard, thumbs in their mouths -- except that one's thumb was in the other's mouth, and vice versa.
They have very different personalities and to me, always looked distinctly different, but other people couldn't tell them apart. Now they look pretty different. They are on and off with regard to friendship, but would always -- and still do! -- fight bitterly over the most ridiculous things, it would be funny if it wasn't so ... upsetting! {^) They'll practically come to fisticuffs over something like what kind of transmission gizmo went into a 1968 Chevy truck or something! {^)
I love them both dearly. One time one of them broke his jaw, and the other one, who was more than 2,500 miles away felt it and called as soon as he was able to get to a phone. I took the call. It was bizarre.
All bets are off when it comes to identical twins!
Was one sick enough to need antibiotics and the other not?
The reason I ask is that research is showing that the bacterial makeup in the colon of thin people is different from those who struggle with their weight. In my case, in my thirties, I had several very serious infections needing antibiotics. It was about then that I started having problems maintaining my weight.
By the way, I am normal weight but it is hell on earth trying to maintain it and fight the constant constant constant hunger. ( Did I mention constant hunger?)
You have my congratulations. You are a disciplined and courageous person. Don’t stop. Any exercise is better than none. People who just sit there and bitch and say they dont burn calories are just fat and lazy. GOOD JOB!!
Do you exercise? And for "hunger constant hunger," for me, a great big bowl of oatmeal loaded with walnuts, raisins, honey, and a big dollop of butter, and milk poured over it, will hold me for a good long time. For me, anyway, the "constant hunger" thing is sated by oatmeal of any kind, but that's me. I love oatmeal raw, cooked, inbetween ... any way I can get it. Satisfies me much more than wheat-based stuff. Just a thought. Your mileage may vary.
It is great fun for me too. I wasn’t able to have children of my own, much to my great sorrow but I love being an aunt and now being a great aunt many times over.
As my only sibling, my brother, my niece and nephew’s dad, is 12 years older than me but he got married and started his family young (at 19), so I sort of got the best of all worlds – an older big brother and protector and then the younger siblings I always wanted in my niece and nephew. We grew up together with me being more of a big sister to them than an aunt.
In addition to my niece’s four youngest girls – the triplets and their 11 month older sister, she also has a now 20 year old daughter from my niece’s previous marriage who is graduating college in a few months and I have a wonderful 17 year old nephew who is my niece’s step son and who I love dearly. My nephew and his wife also have two girls, a 6 year old and a four year old. And the cousins are also very close which I think is really cool since my mother was an only child and my father’s two brothers were not very close to him and lived across the country from each other – I have cousins who live in CA and if I ran into them on the street today, I would have no idea who they were – I only met them once in the mid 70’s.
But we, my brother his wife and my niece and nephew and their kids are all very close. And FWIW my “great” nieces and my great nephew just call me “aunt” – if they call me “great” that’s a complement rather than a title. : )
Funny story – last year at my birthday, one of the triplets asked how old I was. I told her I was 53 years old. She and her sisters got big eyes as if they didn’t really believe me. I then said something like “You didn’t think I was that old did you” to which Helen said, “You’re not old. You’re our aunt!” LOL!
As far as getting along, my nieces’ four youngest girls, the triplets and their only 11 month older sister seem to go from being BBF’s one minute to fighting like cats and dogs the next. I can only imagine what the teenage years are going to be like….and I feel most sorry for their dad – he’s already trying to come up with the right combination of guns and ammo and barbed wire fence and booby traps to stave off their future boyfriends : )
But when the triplets started full time kindergarten last year while their older sister was entering the 1st grade, evidently there was an older kid on their bus, a 4th grader who was picking on and trying to bully their older sister. And what happened?
The triplets stood up against the bully in defense of their older sister even as the bully was much older and much bigger than them, but they put her in her place – strength in numbers perhaps and “You pick a fight with one of us - you pick a fight with all of us”. LOL!
Just the other week I asked the girls about their next sleep over at my house. I told them that since my car was so small, that I didn’t have enough room for four booster seats, that they could either come over for a sleep over two at a time - two on one weekend and the other two the next, which meant I could drive them to someplace cool for dinner and perhaps go to a museum or some sort of kid friendly venue, or if they were all to come over all at the same time, that meant their mom or dad would have to drop them off and pick them up and we couldn’t really go out anywhere. And what was their answer?
They all said “No. We all want to come to your house all together, all at the same time. We have to come all together because we are a family!”
Sort of reminds me of this:
Then there are menopausal women. There are times when weight is not just a matter of food choices or exercise.
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