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What Was Lee Harvey Oswald Doing in Mexico?
Politico ^ | March 18, 20 | Philip Shenon

Posted on 03/19/2015 3:48:28 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: boop
You ought to take a look at Lee Epstein's book, "Legend."
It documents much of LHO's life in the Soviet Union.

It seems Oswald did live a bit of a charmed life in the USSR. He was given a very nice apartment, far and above what the ordinary Soviet worker had for living quarters. His job was not glamorous, but neither was it arduous. He had a very full social schedule and was a bit of a minor celebrity. Epstein hints that it was intelligence delivered by Oswald that enabled the Soviets to shoot down the Powers U2 ... as monitoring those flights had been his job with the Marines in Japan. He married Marina, whose father was a high-ranking officer in the Border Guards section of the KGB. To imagine this alone escaped official KGB scrutiny is just plain stupid.

The Soviets sent over a fake (IMNVHO) defector, Nosenko, to try and convince our intelligence services that the Soviets had "no interest in the kook Oswald." In those days, every foreigner, whether it was Oswald, Bill clinton, or Richard Holbrooke, in the USSR had a cadre of KGB minders. To attempt to deny that is insultingly disingenuous. Fatuous.

Yeah, I suspect Epstein is or was a CIA 'Contract Author,' but the book is undoubtedly worthy of consideration. Discount neither the Soviets nor the Cubans. The Cuban DGI was (or is) a highly sophisticated intelligence group that was trained and operated under the aegis of the Soviet KGB and handled and trained by the 'STASI' the secret intelligence agency of East Germany, the DDR. The Cubans were good at it, and had succeeded in placing agents very high up in the CIA. Remember also that JFK and RFK, when they weren't dallying with Marilyn Monroe or Momo Giancana's girlfriend, were up to their eyeballs in plots to assassinate Castro. Perhaps he somehow turned the tables on them!

In the meantime, we are still working on the mechanics of the hit. We're close to the "How." The "Why," and the "Who, remain fogged in.

61 posted on 03/20/2015 6:00:51 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( Obama told us what he'd do, and did it. How about your Republican Representative?)
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To: nickcarraway

As an aside, the Soviet Union had an espionage policy that it would base spies with a given target country in a country adjacent to that country, never within the same country. This is why the Soviet Union had a gigantic espionage organization located in Canada to spy on the US.

Importantly, *not* Mexico. The Soviet Union’s intelligence assets in Mexico were minimal. So for example, when Stalin wanted to assassinate Trotsky in Mexico, a European agent was sent to the US, then traveled to Canada with a false identity of a Canadian leftist who had been killed after he had gone to Spain to fight for the “Republicans” (communists) against Franco’s Fascists.

From Canada he was sent to Mexico to ingratiate himself with, then murder, Trotsky. Complicated.

So the question about why Lee Harvey Oswald was in Mexico remains.


62 posted on 03/20/2015 8:39:19 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Aldrich Ames was recruited in Mexico City.


63 posted on 03/20/2015 9:43:19 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
So the question about why Lee Harvey Oswald was in Mexico remains.

And the answer remains too, to apply for a passport.

64 posted on 03/20/2015 10:09:28 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: Kenny Bunk

Thanks KB.


65 posted on 03/20/2015 11:41:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: nickcarraway

Ames was a special case, in that he was an insider with detailed knowledge of all involved, and *he* approached the Soviets.


66 posted on 03/20/2015 1:14:05 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: BeadCounter
Still, nothing really conclusive and I just don't have the conspiracy-bend anymore. The theories that exist are all so different, mob, Hoffa, Mafia, Cuban Exiles, Cubans, Castro, and of course, those who blame our own Federal Government.

It is almost supernatural is what I think. The one thing we can all agree on is that Lee Harvey Oswald never had a trial.

67 posted on 03/20/2015 4:14:23 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Kenny Bunk

About the first thing I will ask God before he sends me to hell is, “What happened with JFK?”


68 posted on 03/20/2015 4:19:43 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Karl Spooner

He’ll say, “Ask him yourself.”


69 posted on 03/20/2015 4:29:55 PM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: Kenny Bunk
Or how the rifle was first identified by several police investigators as a "7.65 Mauser" (from clear barrel markings on the weapon)

That ran for a day and a half before someone realized that they dropped the wrong bullet on John Connolly's gurney.

7.65 Mauser

70 posted on 03/20/2015 5:13:31 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: jmacusa

Go to the library........


71 posted on 03/20/2015 7:31:57 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Karl Spooner

That little video was interesting.

I once had a 91 Belgian Mauser and it does resemble the Carcano but not that much. You can immediately tell what it is by seeing the markings.

Odd that they would keep saying that for more than a day.


72 posted on 03/20/2015 7:54:03 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: Karl Spooner

It was a 6.5mm Mannlicher-Carnao.


73 posted on 03/21/2015 4:01:53 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: Osage Orange

Give it up.


74 posted on 03/21/2015 4:02:12 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: jmacusa
Ha!!

Whatever....

75 posted on 03/21/2015 6:58:07 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: jmacusa
I used to believe in all the conspiracies too. But the truth of the matter is Oswald was an angry loner who wanted attention. The one other success in his life , if you will, besides shooting and killing the President Of The United Sates, wounding the Governor of Texas and shooting and killing Dallas police officer J.D. Tippitt was that he became a United States Marine. You don’t become a United Sates Marine unless you can pick up that weapon and hit that target. Not ‘’close enough’’, no “Maggies Drawers’’, you have to hit that target dead on or it’s “Son, you might want to try the Army’’. Oswald did hit the target, he did earn the Globe And Anchor. So for that six or seven seconds in that sixth floor window he picked up that weapon and he hit the target. He didn’t need any help. Jack Ruby? One pissed off, angry America who took the law into his own hands.

It doesn't matter to me whether Oswald could have done it or not. The fact is he had nothing to do with it. One of the shooters from the Dal-Tex building, Jim Braden, was detained then released on orders from on high. There is evidence of four shots (although many more were shot that day) and the House Committee got it right, Kennedy was hit almost simultaneously from the front and the back after the shot to his shoulder. Chip on curve, bullet into upper trim of car, shot to back, shot to head, that's a minimum of four shots. There were more than that of course. Shot to pavement under Braden's position as the car made it's final tight turn, and of course the other shot to the head. Minimum six shots right there. They set up a crossfire.

Don't forget the final word from the government, from the House Committee on Assassinations, is it was a conspiracy. Everybody in the know knows it was a conspiracy, that's why they set up the committee to say so, they didn't want to look like magic bullet idiots throughout history.

76 posted on 03/22/2015 8:09:58 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: The KG9 Kid

I agree.


77 posted on 03/22/2015 8:17:56 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Partisan Gunslinger

Who’s ‘’everybody’’? Name one.


78 posted on 03/22/2015 2:05:36 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: jmacusa
Johnson's attourney, McClellan, Johnson's mistress, to name two big ones. Do a yahoo search, type in "lyndon johnson", and see what the first things that pop up are. Watch some of the videos if you dare to discern the truth.

Or you can choose to believe you government would never stoop so low.

We've had a corrupt government since Wilson let foreigners take over our currency in 1913.

79 posted on 03/28/2015 4:16:19 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: jmacusa
If you do the search, watch the video of the interview between Johnson and Dan Rather where Johnson says it was Oswald "and others", and that there were other motivations. Johnson knew that history would figure out it wasn't Oswald and he wanted to get his side of the story out there.

After the interview, Johnson told CBS not to air the interview, and CBS, being the lapdog to Democrats that they have always been, didn't air it, like good little propagandists.

80 posted on 03/28/2015 4:24:38 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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